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Allegations & Refutations part1

Allegations & Refutations

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5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Allegations & Refutations

As 'Salaam o Alaikum Wa Rehmatullaah Wa Barakaatahu!

Brothers and Sisters! Here I'm going to start a thread in which I'll be posting some allegations being raised on Hazoor Shaikh ul Islam Professor Doctor Muhammad Tahir ul Qadiri MaddazilhulAali.

You people may also have experienced a group of people who due to one reason or the other, and even misconception, oppose this giant scholar of Ahl ul Sunnah and try to exclude him from Ahl e Sunnat Wal Jamaa'ah. So here I'll be clearing most of the allegations. Obviously one can not touch all the issues being a normal person with a limited knowledge but will be clearing most of the confusions which are in main streme. One by one I'll be clearing all of them InshAllaah Azzawajal.

It carries my half-year research on these allegations. I checked both groups of Ulema e Karaam, ones who are against him and the others who support him. Collected both points of view and concluded with the stuff which I'm going to post now.

Actually this thread is in connection with another thread in a community named as 'Ala Hazrat-Imam-e-AhleSunnat'. So you may experience some names also like 'Toqeer', 'Usman', Solitary Api, 'Adeel Bhai' and a few more. I was going to have this discussion there but the attitude there became so biased that I couldn't carry it out there. My posts were deleted, I was targeted by all sides and to be honest I damn care about that attitude but one needs an atmosphere to carry out a discussion so I thought that this place would be best to do so. But they are also included in the allegations against this Doctor so nothing extra would be posted.

So here I go..

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Test for Minhajians:

Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem. Allaahumma SalliAlaa Syyedina Wa Maulana Muhammadin’ Wa Alaa Aalihi Wa Sahbihi Wa Baarik Wa Sallim.

i found it on siteTAHIRUL QADRI'S SUPPORTERS - KINDLY RESPOND TO THESE QUESTIONS .

Ok – Yeah! Sure brother.

However, before we put forward the questions to Professor Tahir Sahib within this document we would first like to pose several questions to his supporters as well, to determine their "Sunniyat" and their ability to respond.

Ahaan! Sure, go ahead.

We trust they will not emulate their Professor's evasive tactics.

Excuse me brother. This is the thing which hurts me the most. Associating something with someone without any reason shown? Don’t you find it rude on your part? Anyways..

So lets put these supporters and admirers of the Professor to a simple test through these simple questions:

Yes.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

(1) Do you accept the Professor's contention that there are no fundamental differences between the Sunnis and the other 72 Jahannami sects?
Let’s see the references you give to support your statement.
See image from minhaj.org
http://i36.tinypic.com/2zge0zl.gif
which clearly says "minhaj ul Quran international movement is non-political, non-sectarian and non-governmental organization blah blah blah.......

Trust me I could not see this “Blah blah blah” anywhere in the link. And I haven’t consulted anyone for the clarification of the word ‘Non-Sectarian’. But according to my own knowledge, as the questions are addressed to us (the admirers of the Doctor), not only our Sunni brothers get Faiz and knowledge from this organization, but also the other schools of thought get benefited and get convinced of the Sunni Aqaaed. I suppose, that’s the reason behind that word.
Arab and Ajam is getting knowledge from this very organization i.e. Minhaj ul Qur’an International and making their lives better and better. Just take my example, a Shia friend of mine and also a Deobandi friend. We three belong to three different schools of thought and yet admire the same source i.e. Minhaj ul Qur’an International and obviously the Doctor as well.
Above all, I have my Father’s example in front of my eyes. He had sympathies with the Deobandi school of thought earlier and used to call this Doctor as ‘Media man’, ‘Drame Baaz’, ‘Actor’ and many other harsh words of same kind. But when he started listening to him he got convinced and convinced to the cores. I guess, I can not give any bigger example than this for the word ‘Non-Sectarian’.
If this is non-sectarian organization then why minhajis call themselves sunni? and why Dr tahir sahib is not exlcuded from sunniyat?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

I would like you to read the above statements again for the clearance of this point as well. And would like to share a verse here in reply to this statement:
Teri rehmaton ka Dareya, Sar e Aam chal raha hai
Mujhey bheek mil rahi hai, mera kaam chal raha hai

(Referring to Prophet {Peace and blessings be upon Him})
In addition to the above mentioned answer, I would like to share a simple example, for what I said. In video given below, you can easily find people from different schools of thought on the stage. But one most important thing which will clear the statement that ‘Why Minhajis and the Doctor call themselves ‘Sunni’; the stuff provided and all the lectures delivered on the stage by the Doctor are purely in accordance with the beliefs of Ahl ul Sunnah. He has Never ever compromised the Aqeedah of Ahl ul Sunnah anywhere. That’s why, Sunni Minhajians and the Doctor himself are Proud Sunnis without a single doubt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA6upWlX8kQ&feature=related
"With all praise to Allah, all the Islamic schools of thought in the issues of beliefs do not possess any differences on basic fundamental beliefs, However, in minor subsidiary matters this difference is only as far as minor details, whose types and kinds are explanatory and detailed. It is due to this, that in missionary affairs to leave the areas of fundamental beliefs and solely become immersed in subsidiary and minor details, and on the basis of this, to make other schools of thought one's target of criticism is not fairness and wisdom". Reference : Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 65.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Firstly, he has himself described what he means by the phrase "basic fundamental beliefs". This translation of that particular passage missed out those mentioned beliefs. He enlists these beliefs as:


1. Tauheed o Risaalat
2. Wahi aur Kitaabon ka Nuzool
3. Malaaika ka Wujood
4. Hazoor ki Khatmiyat
5. 5 Arkaan e Islaami

Don’t you think that these are the Fundamental Beliefs and are common among the various schools of thought?

Secondly, he said this in the context of Surah Al-Imran 3:64, which invites Jews and Christians to come closer based on the common grounds. On this, Doctor was making the following point:

In order to live peacefully in Madina, Jews were invited to the common basis with Muslims (i.e. belief in Tauhid).
On the contrary, various schools of thought share the basic beliefs, then why they can't live peacefully?

Thirdly, Doctor has not said that they share ALL the beliefs. He has rather talked about basic fundamental beliefs, and has enlisted them as well. Considering this, and considering the context (of Jews) in the discussion, is this statement really against Sunniyat? Absolutely not I guess.

It is due to this, that in missionary affairs to leave the areas of fundamental beliefs and solely become immersed in subsidiary and minor details, and on the basis of this, to make other schools of thought one's target of criticism is not fairness and wisdom".

Now that’s not a new thing. In past, every mission contained people from every school of thought. And whenever the powers combined, the objective was achieved e.g. declaring Qadianis as Non-Muslim minority, Struggle for Pakistan etc. So keeping those missions in mind and keeping the mission of ‘Mustafavi Inqilaab’ in mind at the same time, one can easily understand the main theme of the whole paragraph.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Reference : Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 65.

Here you can see the immense irresponsibility on the part of the questioner. He changed the page number from 31 to 65. Wow mister hero

"I curse sectarianism. I do not belong to any sect. I am a representative of the Prophet's community".

Reference: Risaalah Deed Shoneed, Lahore, 19 April 1986, page 4


The above quotation is a master-piece of telling lies. Some circles think that it is permissible to tell a lie if it is intended to degrade Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri. Although I tried to defend this statement firstly when the thread was started. But at that time, I had no knowledge about anything. But now Alhamdulillaah have got some grains of knowledge because I had to.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Doctor NEVER said what Magazine ‘Deed Shoneed’ has printed. Doctor is against sectarianism as it has been condemned many times in Qur’an. But belonging to one school of thought is not considered as sectarianism. So he has declared himself as a Sunni quite number of times.
And one more thing, presenting something from a non famous magazine or a news paper which is printed in the evening and you can find them on the benches of the ‘Barber Shops’ at localities, is the weakest source to show someone’s real beliefs. If you really want to know from his own tongue or his own scriptures that what he is, then read his books or listen to his speeches. Don’t make conclusions and decisions based on ‘Risaalah Deed Shoneed’ kind of things.

Farmanai Mustafa Sallallaho Alaihai Wassalam
"Bani Israil 72 Firqoun per mutafariq ho gaye aur meri umat 73 firqoun per mutafariq hogi. Siwaye 1 firqa key sab key sab Aag mein Dakhil hongey"
Sahab-e-Karam (Alehim Ridwan) ney Arz ki "Ya Rasool Allah woh firqa konsa hai" Aap sal ALLAH HU Aliehi wa Sallm ney fermaya: "Jis Per Main Hoon aur Meray Sahaba Hain" (Jamiya Tarimzi, Jild 2, Page231)"


No doubt about the Hadeeth

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Out of these 73 sects, Ahlesunnat Wa jama'at is one of the sects.

Yes of course. But, what do you want to say? If you are trying to say that he doesn’t include himself in any sect then I have already answered you for that. All our beloved Akaabir have given the Bisharat that Ahl ul Sunnah is the only firqah which is destined to Jannah. And Allhamdulillaah this Doctor is a Sunni to the cores.

where he clearly stated that "ab illa mashallah hamarai ulema or mubaligheen nai is ke abyare ko he apna deeni fareeza samajh liya hai(refering to firqa wariat)"

Yeah! I myself have observed it throughout my life that various ‘Molvis’, ‘Zakirs’ belonging to different schools of thought preach only one thing in the Khutbaat of Jummah. They don’t feel the need of telling the Uswa e Hasanah of our Beloved SallallaahoAlayheWasallima to the youth, they don’t need the feel to tell the daily Fiqahi problems of the people and don’t even feel the need to urge them to work for Islam and gain more knowledge. And in result, a young boy of 18 or 20, when goes to listen the Jummah he thinks that his religion has become scattered into numerous parts and I can not find the right way among all these. This thinking in his mind leads him to the Nafarmaani, Behayaai, Doori from Deen and various dangerous bad deeds

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

If we see in the past, did Sufia Karaam preach like this in Subcontinent? Or helped the generations through politeness and kindness of their inner soul? And we witnessed the results that generations reverted into Islam and the deviants came on the right path.


this is clear cut gustakhiyai Ulema Ahlesunnat.

This is a pointless blame. Which Muballigh e Deen did he criticize by name? We are driving the point of target towards our self. He is the biggest enemy of the Wahabis and so he generally blasts them out in his speeches but without mentioning their names. So please, stop taking the statements wrongly, I request you brothers.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

2. Do you share the Professor's belief that Aala Hazrat's Fatawa of Kufr in Husaamul Haramain against Ashraf AIi Thanwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi, Khaleel Ahmed Ambhetwi and Muhammad Qaasim Nonotwi, although correct then, but it is NOT APPLICABLE TODAY? (Null and void).

Context of the question itself shows it’s health. But let’s not talk anything out of our self. Although I know that this is another piece of ‘Suni Sunaai’ news. But the replies I’m going to put will not be ‘Sunay Sunaaye’ for sure. I guarantee.
Ala Hazrat Imam e Ahl e Sunnat Shah Amhad Raza Khan Fazil e Bareli RehmatullaahAlayh was a Mujaddid e Deen o Millat. His position is still the same and will remain the same till the end of this world. His works are matchless. His translation, ‘Kanz ul Imaan’, is really a fruit for the Imaan. People have been getting Faiz from it and still many people are taking out pearls from it. His hold over 50 subjects shows the blessings he has from Allaah SubhanaHoo and the Beloved SallallaahoalayheWasallima. No one can call him Baatil MazAllaah ever. Neither can anyone call his work not acceptable or wrong or Baatil. The Fatawa he gave against those personalities was Haq (and not wrong) and was based on solid proofs and facts.

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5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Keeping all the above things in mind, if we look at the Fatawa, no where in the Fatawa is mentioned that whosoever will disagree with my stance and Fatwa will be a Murtad, Kharij az Deen, Kaafir or a Non-Sunni. If he has written such statement, please show me and I’ll change my mind the very next second. Doctor considers him and all the others who gave the Fatawa against them as his Crowns.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

But when a senior scholar gives a statement or a Fatwa in the favor or against someone or any issue, the juniors have every right to show the difference of opinion, if there is any, on the basis of research and facts. But they can never ever say that the senior scholar, Imam, Mujaddid was wrong and his Fatwa is Baatil or not acceptable. Same way, Doctor’s statement about the Fatwa is “Ala Hazrat ne jo Fatwa dia, jo aap ne tehqeeqat keen, mein unn ko Haqq samajhta hoon aur unn ko hargiz ghalat nai kehta aur mabni bar haq kehta hoon aur kabhi zindagi mein unn ko ghalat kehnay ka tasawwur bhi nahi kia”. {Answering to a similar kind of question in 1989 at a Masjid}

Now you can yourself see the two statements. I have got the reference for the statement I presented, give me yours: ).

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

A point to be noted is that Allah and His Rasool SallallaahoAlayheWasallima’s teachings and orders, and all the Akabir in the Ummah, their orders and teachings have difference in status. No one can deny this thing. E.g. If you disagree with the teachings of Allaah and His Rasool SallallahoAlayheWasallima’s teachings, you become a Kaafir. But after the Sahaba, right from Imaam e Azam till today, no scholar including Ala Hazrat, has ever said that no one has the right to have difference of opinion with my Fatwa or whosoever disagrees, becomes a Kafir or Murtad. This is the practice right from the time of Imam e Azam RadiAllaahoAnho.

Once Hazrat Mujaddid Alf e Saani RadiAllaahoanho said to a person, “Don’t become Allaah or Rasool”. He asked what are you saying? Can anybody become Allah or Rasool MazAllah?
He replied that it means that it’s only the attribute of Allaah that nothing can happen against His will, but if something goes against your will and thinking, don’t become angry and blood boiled. And whosoever disagrees with the Rasool Allaah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima becomes a Kafir right at the spot. So that’s the wisdom which was taught to us by our Akaabir. Where are we going?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Imam Shafa`i once said,”I am right with the possibility that I may be wrong, and the ones who are against me are wrong with the possibility that they may be right”. Just look at the wisdom of our Akaabir and Imams..
Imam e Azam’s own students Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad, disagreed with the Imam e Azam himself on thousands of issues. But no one became a deviant
(
http://www.geocities.com/~abdulwahid/abuhanifah/al-imam.html).
Imam Muhammad was the student of Imam Maalik also, and at the same time disagreed with him on several issues and at the same time no one became a deviant. Imam Safa`i was the student of Imam Muhammad; he not only disagreed with him on issues but also created a new Madhab. And yet, no one became a deviant. Then Imam Shafa`i was the grand teacher of Imam Ahmad bin Humbal, he also disagreed with him on issues and also created a new Madhab. But no one dared to call any of them as deviant.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Now let’s analyze the merits of Adaab. Imam Abu Hanifa RadiAllaahoAnho had the Fatwa of not doing Rafa Yadayn, where as his later grand grand student Imam Shafa`i gave the Fatwa of doing Rafa Yadayn in Namaz. But whenever Imam Shafa`i used to go to Imam e Azam’s Shrine, he didn’t do Rafa Yadayn in the Namaz, out of respect, acted against his own research for the respect of his grand grand teacher. Going against his own Fatwa. This was the time when people had open minds and had places in hearts to accept each other.

All this was to be told to show you the original soul of ‘Difference in Opinion’.

Have you ever looked for the Fatwa against Yazeed from Imam e Azam’s Fatawa? If not then it’s of ‘Sakoot’ .

He has shown Silence over his matter, but today most of us call him a Kafir and no doubt he should be called a Kafir and was a deviant and an ignorant. But going against Imam e Azam’s Fatwa of silence over the matter changed our Hannafiyat or Sunniyat? Or of any of our Akabir after Imam e Azam? No surely not, then why is Doctor being blamed for having difference in opinion in just two or three issues with the earlier Akaabir? Like Imam Shafa`i?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Let me reveal the relationship between Doctor and AlaHazrat AlayheRehma now.

Long time ago when Doctor Sahib felt an unbearable pain in lungs, he had to give lecture on the topic of Tasawwuf (Sufism) at Lahore. He sent someone to Lohari (a place where a Hakeem sold medicine for pain in Lungs). He sent the person to get it for him and laid on bed for a while. In dream he went out of his home and someone told him that you are out of your home and AlaHazrat has come to see you, he’s inside. He rushed back in and found AlaHazrat sitting in his room. That was the first time AlaHazrat blessed him with his Ziyaarat. He said why have you come to see me? You could have call me there in Bareli? Why you suffered the pain? He replied you were suffering from pain and I was informed. So came to see you.

AlaHazrat was wearing ‘Ehraam’ shareef. This clothing shows his status that in what condition he is in the Ruhaani duniya as well . He called Doctor to bless him with a hug and when he hugged him, the cloth of Ehram felt down from his chest and his chest touched Doctor’s chest directly without curtains and the faiz transferred from AlaHazrat’s chest to his.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

He asked him then when will you go back to Bareli? He replied that I’ll listen to your lecture and then will move back. Let me clear the point that whenever a senior sitts in a Majlis of a junior, he sitts there to give away the faiz, not to earn something. And keep an eye, that may he not get detracted. While explaining all this relation, he was sitting in a Masjid and gave his Shahaadah, and said that may Allaah and His Rasool’s laanat on the liar, and the Angels’, and all the Momins’ till the day of judgment. No one can snatch AlaHazrat’s nisbat from anyone and neither is anyone the ‘Thekaydaar’ of AlaHazrat AlayheRehmat. His faiz is there in the Tehreek Minhaj ul Qur’an along with many other Holy Fayyuz..

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

At residence of Saiyyid Wajaa'at Rasool Qaadri and in the presence of the following individuals; Hazrat Allamah Kaukab Noorani Okarvi, Saiyyid Riaasat Ali Qaadri, Hajee Shafee Muhammad Qaadri, Professor Majeedul Qaadri and his former supporter and sympathiser Hazrat Maulana Ghulaam Haider Saiyidi, he uttered these words. If this news is wrong then wht dont he declare it in public.

Well he has already done it. I just showed one example. And if really he has said so, then call these Ulema in front of people and take their oath on Qur’an because it’s very important for the sake of Iman of people and today generations love this doctor and admire him. They should open his reality, isn’t it? But then, as always, nothing like that. Someone used a sentence against me that people don’t answer because they don’t have any. I would say nothing further.. Judge this situation yourself now .

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Why does he pray behind kafir and murtad wahabis/deobandies and also want others to do the same.

Who told you he does? Show me the reference for this line. Asstaghfirullaah..

If this news is wrong then wht dont he declare it in public.

Doctor made some initial attempts to clarify his point of view in front of ulama. He wrote letters to clarify his stand on various issues. Can we say that he has done nothing about resolving these issues?

It is true that his priority was always something else. So in a session, when his students asked him about this, his response was something like this:

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

"Should I spend time in defending my position in the eyes of some ulama, or should I spend this time to defend the image of Islam in the eyes of the whole world? I want to do the work which would save our generations from not only the attack of bad aqida but also from the attacks that non-Muslims are making on Islamic thought. If I could do enough work to strengthen Islam, it matters least whether I could defend my position or not. I have a limited time and I don't want to spend it in defending my personal image. With the blessing of Allah I hold the beliefs of Ahl-us-Sunnah, and would remain a Sunni till my death Inshallah."

When the same question was put to Imam Maalik RehmatullaahAlayh, he said that they will get to know the reality when my funeral would be prayed. All the things and confusions in minds will become clear and transparent.

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5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Who doesn't know that Aqaid of Ahl-e-Sunnat are seriously under threat because of a Saudi sponored compaign? Under the influence of this compaign, a large number of Sunni youth is converting to Wahabism. The situation is getting worse because the local Sunni ulema are usually not well-equipped with the references of Quran and Hadith to defend their aqida. Secondly, there are very few books who answer the questions raised against our aqida.

At this time of crisis, Doctor has really come to rescue with his series of books on aqida. He has written detailed books on topics like

Tauhid
Haiyat-un-Nabi
Ilm-e-Ghaib
Bid'at
Tawasul
Isteghasa
Shifa'at
Isal-e-Sawab


Milad has undeniable proofs of aqida of Ahl-e-Sunnat. These books are extremely effective even to convince the people of other aqida. Similarly his lectures are also a very powerful medium of communication.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Once a friend of mine gave his CD on the topic of Milad-un-Nabi SallallaahoAlayheWasallima to a Deobandi and when he returned the CD, he was totally convinced about permissibility of this blessed event. The biggest proof can be seen on every Milaad when we see the Principal of the biggest Deobandi Institute of Pakistan, Jamia Ashrafia, on the stage with numerous other Sunni Scholars and bazurghaan e Din and other people from other schools of thought.

At this critical time, shouldn't we concentrate on external attacks on our aqida, rather than criticizing each other?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Difference of Opinion on the issue of Takfir by AlaHazrat.

Now let’s see AlaHazrat’s way as well. Allama Fazl e Haq Khairabadi (he is among the buzurgaan of AlaHazrat AlayheRehma) issued the Fatwa of Kufr on Shah Ismail Dehlvi. And AlaHazrat AlayheRehma, gave conditions and around 70 reasons of the kufr in his Fatawa but in the presence of Allama Fazl e Haq KhairAbadi RehmatullaaAlayh’s fatwa didn’t issued the Fatwa of Kufr against Shah Ismail Dehlvi (the one who wrote many kufriya statements including that ‘Bhai bhai’ concept in his books). Now whom would you call on the weaker end of Imaan? He is giving reasons and conditions and still not giving the Fatwa of Kufr on some Hikmat and may be because he didn’t have conversations with him in his life because he was earlier than him. Whatsoever was the case, we witnessed a difference of opinion even on the matter of Takfeer, from AlaHazrat AlayheRehma as well. Then why is this Doctor on being blamed for having one?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Even a bigger issue.

Let these Ulema e Deoband alone, people (Ulema) had even differences on the matter of Iman of the Parents of Holy Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima. Even Hazrat Mulla Ali Qari had the first Fatwa of Kufr against the parents of Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima MaazAllaah. Although his own teacher Imam Ibn e Hajr Makki al-Haitmi had the Fatwa of Iman regarding them. Then he saw a dream and got it’s tabeer from some of his teachers and changed his madhab and then issued his fatwa in the favor of Iman of the parents of Holy Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima. Now tell me, whom would you call a Non-Sunni?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

If he didnt uttered these words then why did he call kafir Thanvi as Molana Ashraf Ali thanvi in one of his lectures which i heard myself on Qtv

Alright. Yeah! I remember which speech are you talking about. It was the Alimi Milaad Conference at Minar e Pakistan, the largest Milad celebrated throughout the world.

Ok let’s have a look at this statement now.

Allama Ibn e Tehmiyah is known as Shaikh ul Islam in the books of history. Read the Fatawa of Jalaal ud Deen Suyyuti, Imam Ibn e Hajr al-Makki al-Haitmi, Imam Qustulaani, Imam Sharani and Imam Nabhani. They all have given strict Fatawa against him because he had extreme wrong believes towards our Aqah AlayheSalatoSalaam. E.g. He was of the opinion that when someone makes a journey for the sake of Ziyarat of the exalted shrine of Prophet SallallaahoalayheWasallima, it’s prohibited Nauzubillaah.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

But when these exalted Ulema gave their Fatawa against him, even the Fatawa of Kuft, they used the term ‘Shaikh ul Islam’ with his name . This is the tradition, Adaab, Hayaa and stance of the people of knowledge and the exalted scholars of Ahl ul Sunnah right from the start.
Did the Doctor use the phrase of RehmatullaahAlayh with Mr. Thanvi’s name? NO. People just intend to go against a person without a solid reason and then after that, they see that person with the eye of doubt only.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

next thought.......watch image below where he excluded Ala'Hazrat(Heart of Ahlesunnat Wa jama'at) from the list of mujadid's he mentioned in his book "Firqa Parasti ka Khatima kiyun ker mumkin hai"page 71,72

He has not used any word or phrase like ‘List of Mujaddids’ or anything like that as the heading of that paragraph. So you can’t blame him for something which he has not done. He doesn’t exclude him from the list of Mujaddids, he calls him ‘Mujddid e Deen o Millat’. Don’t assume everything by yourself brother.
Doctor is himself a great admirer of Kanz-ul-Iman Shareef and has also written a book in its praise ("Kanz-ul-Iman Ki Fanni Haisiyat"). On the opening ceremony of Irfan-ul-Quran (i.e. Doctor’s translation) he said: "There are so big names in the list of translators of Quran, that I am feeling shy even to stand as the last person in their line."

"Firqa parasti ka Khatima kiyun ker mumkin hai" is full of SULLAH KULLIAT stuff. This book clearly shows that his intentions are no where near slogan of Aghlesunnat Wa Jama'at that Kafir should be called kafir

Here you have caught yourself in a big problem my friend.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Pir Jamat Ali Shah Muhadas Ali Puri declared that whoever would not unite under the leadership of Quaid-e-Azam (i.e. a Shia) his funeral would not be offered by our muridin. What would you call him? A Sullah e Kulli or not a supporter of the slogan of Ahl e Sunnah and declare him out of Ahl ul Sunnah?

What is your fatwa about those who worked under the leadership of Yusuf Banoori (a Deobandi) in 1973’s Tahreek-e-Khatam-e-Nabuwat

It includes the following:

- Qamr-ud-Din Sayalvi Sahib
- Allama Ahmad Saeed Qazmi Shah Sahib (who also gave his fatwa against the deobandis and is also the teacher of Dr. Qadri)
- Molana Noorani Sahib
- Molana Niazi Sahib
- Pir Karam Shah Sahib

Comment: In order to declare one school (i.e. Qadiyanis) as kafir, people made another “kafir” (i.e. Deobandi) as their leader? What a surprise! And yet didn’t become Sulah e Kulli or anything like that. It’s not that I don’t know the meaning of Sulah e Kulli, but if you say that the point behind that joining was a certain mission then there is a certain important in fact a damn important mission behind this joining. Blaming someone a Sulah e Kulli without knowing anything is a bit non-serious attitude, don’t you think so?

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

What is your fatwa about those who worked under the leadership of Mufti Mahmood (a Deobandi) in 1977’s Tahreek-e-Nizam-e-Mustafa

Almost every big Sunni name was involved there.

Comment: The movement is run under the leadership of a “kafir” (i.e. Deobandi), but the title of the movement is “Tehreek-e-Nizam-e-Mustafa”. What a surprise!

We looked at the history. Many Ulema e Ahl ul Sunnah collaborated with other schools of thought for certain missions and their Sunniyat wasn’t disturbed. But when Doctor, takes them under his own leadership, and not collaborates and works under their leadership, becomes a Non-Sunni and is asked that what face is he going to show to Allaah and His Rasoo SallallaahoAlayheWasallima? Read the book ‘Fitna e Tahiri ki Haqeeqat’ Pg. 2. It sates “Professor Tahir ul Qadri jo in sab ko apni baghal mein liye betha hai, yeh Allaah aur uss k Rasool ko kya mooh dikhaye ga?”. Judge the level of thinking yourself. Is their any research work behind writing the scriptures? Will discuss these both books in detail.

1. Fitna e Tahiri ki Haqeeqat
2. Khatre ki ghanti.

Solitary Api sent me the book “Khatre ki ghanti!” (or may be Irfan Qadri), through mail and I wish they would have read it once before sending it to me. But no worries, Api you did your job and I’m doing mine.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Coming to Tauqeer Bhai and the other questioners again. What is your fatwa about those who remained silent about the takfir issue against the same Ulema e Deoband whom AlaHazrat declared as Kuffar, though the quotations from the relevant books were presented to them

It includes the following:

- Pir Mehr Ali Shah (see his Mehr-e-Munir / Fatawa)
- Ulama-e-Farangi Mahal (a complete group of prominent Sunni scholars)
- Irshad Hussain Muhadas Rampuri (great Sunni scholar and contemporary of Aala Hazrat)
- Pir Jamat Ali Shah Muhadas Alipuri (great muhadis and sheikh)
- Molana Hamid Ali Khan of Multan (a prominent Sunni scholar)
- Sheikh-ul-Islam Qamr-ud-Din Sayalvi (he is at top among the scholars and sheikhs)
- Zia-ul-Umat Pir Karam Shah Sahib Al-Azhari (one of the most accomplished Sunni scholars of recent times).

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Naveed Ahmad

Now you remember your comment on me when the issue of Ahl ul Bait was under discussion? You used Pir Karam Shah RehmatullahAlayh’s name. Now let’s see what you call him. A Sullah e Kulli or a Non-Sunni as he also showed silence over the issue of Takffir on those Deobandi Ulema even after their scriptures were also presented before him, but on the basis of some researches and due to some Ihtiyaat, remained silent.

What happens to the slogan when we very proudly give references from the book of a Wahabi, and according to you a Kafir? Yeah! I am talking about the ‘Tafseer Ibn e Kathir’. Search about Hafiz Ibn e Kathir’s beliefs. Think over it again and again that what a big mistake you have done by saying that this is the slogan of Ahl ul Sunnah. Dare to put these above mentioned personalities out of Ahl ul Sunnah and place them out from under the flag of Ahl ul Sunnah and I know no son of a mother can do this bold and stupid thing.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

What would you like to say about your slogan thingy now?

The point of view of Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri is not something new. He is standing in the group of Pir Mehr Ali Shah, Ulama-e-Farangi Mahal, Irshad Hussain Muhadas Rampuri, Pir Jamat Ali Shah Muhadas Alipuri, Molana Hamid Ali Khan of Multan, Sheikh-ul-Islam Qamr-ud-Din Sayalvi and Zia-ul-Umat Pir Karam Shah Sahib Al-Azhari. If you love to judge Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri as standing on the weakest level of Iman then you’ll have to judge the same for all of these personalities also. You would surely give your verdict with sincerity about those who not only remained silent about this but they also worked under these “kafirs” or side by side them. Remember, kindnesses of AlaHazrat are with Minhajians forever.

Faiz e Raza jaari rahay ga..

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

According to Doctor both of the following approaches are correct:

Declaring other schools as kafir (if your research leads to that conclusion)

OR

Showing a silence over the issue of takfir (also on the basis of research and in some cases a bit of Ihtiyaat)

Doctor has opted for the second option as many other Sunni scholars have done in the past, so please try to avoid associating the things with Ahl ul Sunnah.

And these things that "he calls them right" are absolutely not correct. Provide me a single reference. He is showing the silence on the basis of some facts and research and showing that research to people is not a proof that he is considering them right, same as Peer Mehr Ali Shah RehmatullaahAlayh and many others.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

And after that, the Hadeeth you quoted is rightly being followed by Doctor. E.g. Look at the complete series of the videos in which he is exposing the biggest Faajirs of present times. And for a bit more clarifications, let me tell you one more thing. This Doctor has done his Bismillaah in Uloom e Diniyah and Uloom e Darsiyah on from Maulana Zia ud Din Madni Sahib.
And many Ulema are witnesses to this like Maulana Umer Naeemi and a few more who were present there too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rFiJNpzBgA

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Also see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RxuRIKepPg&feature=related
I can provide you dozens of links in his favor defending his position in this regard.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Do you believe like the Professor that Allah's beloved Prophet - Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam - was not bestowed with any authority whatsoever? (lqtiyaar).

May Allaah SubhanaHoo forgive the one who associated these words with Doctor. But I can’t find a reason why is he doing so and on what basis?

"When the Creator of the Universe did not give the Prophet the authority that he appoint anything according to his wishes in the affairs of religion...".

Oh here you give the reference as well. Alright, let’s look into it. I would love to know the name of the book from which you gave us the snapshot. Most probably it’s one of those books written against him.

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

refutations of this aqeedah never provided although new edition have been altered to exclude these words.

If that book is really changed, and people have read those words in that book, they should publish that book again with the original stuff, ain’t it? And also should give it to us to read it here on internet. Good idea, isn’t it? No worries, I’ll comment on those books as well but after replying this question.

Now let’s see the original wording of the book:

“Khaliq e kaun o makaan ne jab Hazoor SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ko jumlah tashreehi aur takweeni ikhtiyarat k bawajood iss baat ka mukallif aur zimma daar nahi thehraaya k Aap SallalaahoAlayheWasallima kisi ko Islam kabool kernay k liye majboor farmaayen, Jab ke aap ki razaa ko man’na hi ain deen hai aur aap ki mansha per amal kerna hi ain shariyat hai tou phir kisi muballigh ko kahan se yeh ikhtiyaar hasil ho geya k wo dusron se ikhtalaaf e raaye ka haqq chheen ley” Pg. 55

5/24/09

Naveed Ahmad

Once again, while giving the reference to the book he skipped out the right page number. He changed it from 55 to 86? I don’t know why is he doing so? To misguide the readers to the wrong page numbers so that they can themselves say that they have changed the wordings? Or something else is going on in his mind. Allaah and His Habib SallallaahoAlayheWasallima know better.

Compare the wording with its "translation". Do you find any drop of sincerity on the part of the translator?

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

The book is emphasizing that the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima was awarded with all kinds of authorities, and still he didn't force others to accept Islam, and people are comparing it with Taqwiyatul Imaan's statement "Whosever’s name is Muhammad or Ahmed has no authority over anything". Pathetic!

Doesn't this act show extreme lack of integrity? Are you people getting the idea that what sort of intentions are going on to prove him wrong by any possible means, even the unfair ones?

You have quoted only one book of Doctor, i.e. "Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh" It is only a 100-pages book. I would suggest the readers to read the book themselves. It is so self-explanatory that you won't need any external explanations.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Expecting this sort of Gustakhi of Beloved SallallaahoAlayhewasllima is totally out of context and impossible for me. Because, it’s because of his efforts that it’s in the constitution of Pakistan that the punishment of Gustakh e Rasool is a death penalty. A huge group of Ulema e Karaam were present there to defend this statement of Ahl ul Sunnah and an equal amount of other scholars from other Schools of Thought were also there. There he took the stand and stood like a lion against the other schools and won the debate. A grand Mufti of Ahl ul Sunnah Mufti Syed Shuja’at Ali Qadri said at that moment to that huge group that “Shukr hai Allah ka k Tahir ul Qadri maujood tha, agar wo na hota tou hum Ahl e Sunnat mein koi aisa aadmi na tha jo aisay dalaael deta jo inho ne diye”. Associating this kind of wrong statement with that man is really a big example of irresponsibility.

I want to present a statement as well. Judge it yourself

“Khaliq e kainaat ne jab se yeh duniya takhleeq ki, Aap SallallaahoAlayheWasallima k darjay buland ker raha hai aur jab tak rahay gi kerta rahay ga aur koi nai janta k kitna ker chukka. Yahaan tak keh khaliq aur takhleeq ka farq, Abid aur Mabood ka farq chhor ker baqi sab farq mita diye”. Watch his lectures on Darood o Salaam. I’ll give you the exact duration of the CD if you demand. Hope you can justify his gustaakhi now?





5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Another example of so called ‘Gustakhi’:
“As far as the grade of faith is concerned, faith in Allaah Subhanahoo will be first. And that Is the first because Allaah Is the highest being the creator, and grade of faith in Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima possesses the second position. Now coming to the other dimension of the faith, and that is the aspect of sequence, here the faith in Prophet hood is the first and sequentially faith in Tauheed comes second”.
http://www.islamtune.com/play-video-532.html. Tune to 22:00 for the related wordings and also remove dot after ‘html’. .
Tauheed mili un k sadqay.
I guess this is the slogan of Ahl ul Sunnah, if there is one. Is he really going against it?

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Do you accept the ruling of the Professor on the Mas' ala of "Diyat" and reject the consensus of the lmaams.of Hanafi, Shafaee, Maliki and Hambali Mazaahib etc?

It is right that his opinion on the issue of Diyat is different from the opinion of most of other scholars. When this issue was raised he said that he has made his opinion in the light of Quran and Sunnah. He invited the opposing scholars to make a panel and raise any objection about his opinion and he promised to clear that objection. No one could come up with any solid objection about his opinion, except that his opinion was different from some of the previous scholars.

Difference of opinion in scholarly matters is a usual thing in Islam. There is no need to say that either Dr. Sahib is wrong, or the other scholars are wrong.

There are many issues in which Hanafis have a different opinion than the other 3 schools. As you are asking this question from Taqlid’s point of view, the inclusion of other schools’ opinion is not relevant. Ideally you should ask that how is he differing from the Hanafi view on this issue.

Now let we look into the matter more closely. Did Imam Abu Hanifa RadiAllaahoAnho give Fatwa in the favor of Half diyat of Woman? No, Imam Abu Hanifa RadiAllaahoAnho DID NOT give fatwa in the favor of half diyat for women; so please correct this misconception. (I have confirmed this from two scholars, not from the Minhaj Ulema Council though). These were the later Hanafi scholars who gave this fatwa. So Doctor has not refuted Imam Abu Hanifa’s fatwa in this case.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Does the issue of diyat really enjoy the status of Ijma? Doctor has explained that this issue has received many differing opinions from earlier scholars and hence it is not easy to say that there is an Ijma on this issue. He explained all this in a comprehensive speech on this topic in the presence of great scholars like Niazi Sahib and Kazmi Sahib etc. I have not listened to that speech but those who attended this have informed me about this.

Ijtehad and Taqlid are not two opposing things. Taqlid means that who is not a mujtahid should accept the opinion of Imam without asking for its argument. But a mujtahid is allowed to do Ijtehad (though he cannot become mujtahad-e-mutliq). In fact there are 6 different levels between mujtahed-e-mutliq and a muqalid (for details see Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan’s famous book "Ja Al-Haq").So Ijtehad and Taqlid CAN go side by side.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Now let’s look at the image you gave.

The six classes between Mujtahid and Muqalid are not an addition from my side or the Doctor; they have been defined and elaborated by Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan in his famous book "Ja Al-Haq".

The fatwa of half diyat for women was given by later Hanafi scholars (AFTER Imam Abu Hanifa). Even Hanafi scholars do have different views on this issue (which Dr Sahib quoted in his talk).
If Mufti Azam does not accept Doctor as a mujtahid, it is his own judgment. I won't criticize Mufti Sahib for this. But it was better if he had pointed out that which qualities of a mujtahid are missing in Doctor. You should not forget that there are at least dozens of Muftis in Pakistan with the title “Mufti-e-Azam” and they have different judgments about different personalities. For example Mufti-e-Azam Mufti Abdul-Qayum Khan Hazarvi Sahib, Mufti Muhibbullah Noori, Allama Mufti Rafiq ul Hassani Sahab (along with some other Muftis) considers Doctor as a Mujtahid and a great Scholar of Ahl ul Sunnah. Why shouldn’t we accept his view?

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Differences among the scholars are a normal thing in the 1400 years history of Islam. From Imam Abu Yousaf and Imam Muhammad (the 2 students of Imam Abu Hanifa) to AlaHazrat AlayheRehma, every scholar has differed with the earlier scholars. Aala Hazrat differed on thousands (and not hundreds) of places with the earlier Hannafi scholars. If Doctor has differed on one (or on a few) issues with some, no sky should fall apart. What say?

Let me share something here. Can you see the last line of the first paragraph in the image? “Wesay Aurat ki diyat tou ijma se sabit hai k adhi hai, leikin hum aap ki biwi ki puri dilwa dein gey”.

I feel like crying after reading this sort of statement from a Mufti who has so much Aqeedat among the Ummah. Showing this much disrespect on the basis of making joke is allowed in Islam and showing difference in opinion on the basis of facts and figures on some issue is harmful and not allowed? Wow. Is this a matter of joke or the matter of Deen and of thousands and lacks of people and their faiths and Aqaaid? Anyways, let’s move forward.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

n Mr. Naveed!! one thing I want to say u that once I used to follow dr tahir ul Qadri n listen his lectures n read his books...n I also used to feel as u r doing right now.... but when I started using orkut...one of my Islamic Brothers guided me...when I came to know some reality about him which I had not known before, I immediately left him...now AlhamduLILLAH I m okay n may ALLAH keep me on Rightous path n give me death in the Service of Islam....

MashAllaah, I don’t doubt your intentions Tauqeer Bhai. But one thing I also want to tell you that if you love someone, or according to you, follow someone, and then find things against him as well, you should try to search for their reality. If we start saying that this many things are going against him so he’s not right, then go and search the web you can find huge amount of Fitnah going against our beloved sallalahoAlayheWasallima, the most perfect creation of God. In Ummah, if you see the history, Imam e Azam Abu Hanifa RadiallaahoAnho faced the maximum opposition. So can we call him wrong straight forwardly? Nauzubillah. Imam Malik Rehmatullaah Alayh used to have our Aqah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima’s ziyarat every night in his life. And the way people treated him is just not explainable. Then he used to say that the things will get clear on them when my funeral would be prayed. Making your opinion on the stuff given on ‘Orkut’ or a few sites is just not the right way to guide yourself in the matters of Aqeedah (Iman).

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Now we will move to the “Books” presented in the thread and on many other places. Irfan Qadri also sent me the links of these books considering them as very ‘Authentic’ and ‘Undeniable’

I had the ‘honor’ to read both the books which were presented. Let’s discuss them one by one in detail.

First of all, let’s come to “Fitna e Tahiri ki Haqeeqat”.

On Pg. 3, it’s stated that,”Hazrat Mufti Qari Mehboob Raza Khan ne amli zindagi mein qadam rakha tou wo waqt qiaam e Pakistan ki Tehreek k josh o kharosh ka zamana tha. Aap ne bhi qyaam e saltanat e islamia k liye muslim league mein shamooliyat ikhtiyaar ki aur uss jidd o jehad mein hissa liya aur yeh deen se mukhlis muslmaanan e hind aur ulema e Ahl ul Sunnah ki koshishon ka samara tha k Hazrat Quid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah ne qyaam e Pakistan ko mumkin ker dikhaya”

Calling a Shia a kafir is the slogan of Ahl ul Sunnah according to my Tauqeer Bhai, and at the same time the author is calling a Shia (i.e. Quid e Azam) as ‘Hazrat’? Qari Mehboob Sahab worked under a Shia and joined Muslim League which was lead by a Shia and according to my brothers, a Kafir, and his Sunniyat wasn’t hurt. But the person on whom the book is being written, when takes others under his own leadership for the purpose of Mustafavi Inqilaab, his sunniyat gets hurt and he becomes a Non-Sunni? What’s the scale to measure one’s sunniyat, it’s not given in the ‘Book’

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

The campaign against Doctor starts from the Pg. 05 and the allegations written their can be viewed that how authentic they are. Read the allegation number 2 and 3 out of the 6 allegations. Can you see references there in the Book for them? And if the references are the same as you brothers gave me here, then I should say nothing on it. Book carries a weak health then. Saying this on the basis of the Fatawa of AlaHazrat AlayheRehma. Have you ever read his fatawa? Did you see those letters, those proofs, the allegations, references and then the exact Fatwa? Please, have a look at them and you’ll say same sort of thing regarding it. Read the first paragraph of Pg. 5, where it’s stated that it’s not allowed to do Ijtihaad. That’s the gist of the whole paragraph. I’ll not comment, you can yourself judge it better.

All the things he is mentioning under the allegation that he offers prayers behind other sects like Shia, Deobandi, Wahabi etc., prove to be wrong because I have already presented the health of those allegations. People use the ‘magazines’ as references in their books? Have you ever seen such thing among Ulema e Ahl ul Sunnah? The Akabireen I’m talking about. No, the points and statements have always been taken direct from the books of the personalities being discussed.

He lounges a new sect in his book with the name “Firqa e Professoriah”. Illa MashAllaah. I fear where is he directing the Ummah? He said that Professor cursed the Ahl ul Sunnah as well. Let me use these words in Urdu as they will present the real sense. “ …. In se pucho k in sab firqoh per laanat bhej ker Ahl e Sunnat per bhi laanat bhej gaye….”. Wow. Talking without a single reference. What can I say now? He is using a statement based on the reference from ‘Deed Shoneed’. You yourself can judge it. I leave it on you brothers and sisters.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

”Khatre ki Ghanti!”

I would only present one example. And then you can get an idea yourself. On Pg. 16, you can see a heading ‘Ander se Wahhabi’. See if any references quoted? Any authentic ones or even weak ones? I could see one claim there on the page. Read the data under the heading where it states that he is a Wahhabi because he has named his foundation as ‘Minhaj ul Quran’, while Ahl ul Sunnah Wal Jama’at name their institutions as ‘Ghausia’, ‘Chishtia’ … Now you can justify the health of the whole book yourself. Naming one’s foundation as ‘Minhaj ul Qur’an’ leads one to the Wahhabiyat? I pay solutes to him on agreement with this bold statement by a Wahabi Magazine ‘Al Islam’ and placing it in his ‘Book’. Not criticizing on his own personality. Just examining his scriptures. It’s not a ‘Gustakhi’ as per my knowledge. Now let’s see is he a Wahhabi in real? Look at his Aqaaed through his scriptures:

1. Tauhid
2. Haiyat-un-Nabi
3. Ilm-e-Ghaib, Bid'at
4. Tawasul
5. Isteghasa
6. Shifa'at
7. Isal-e-Sawab
8. Milaad
9. Barkaat e Mustafa
10. Aqida e Tawhid aur Ghair Ullah ka Tasawwur
11. Shehr e Madina aur Ziyarat e Rasool
12. Ziyarat e Qaboor
13. Tabarruk
14. Aqsam e Bidaat (Ahadith o Aqwal e A`emah ki Roshni mein)

And many more. And just read these books. These will reveal his ‘Wahhabiyat’ better than that heading under which the name of the foundation is given as a reference. I assure you. And watch his hundreds of lectures on the Seerah of Rasool Allaah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima studded with facts and figures and proofs from Qur’an and Ahadeeth. One should really think before speaking. That’s what Solitary Api has taught me.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

(3) Do you believe like the Professor that Salaah behind the Wahabi, Deobandi, Tablighi and Shia lmaams is permissible?

No, because there is no such statement uttered by him yet. And I assure you that he won’t even utter in future as well. Now moving towards your references..

"I do not only like performing Salaah behind the Wahabis and Shias but whenever I get the opportunity I perform Salaah behind them". Reference : Risaalah Deed Shoneed, Lahore, 19 April 1986, page 4

Once again, Risaalah Deed Shoneed. I am not explaining it again. Just I’ll write the relative most thing which is that he answered in the wording that it’s totally permissible to pray behind a Shafai, Maliki or a Humbali Imaam as they all belong to the different schools of law of the same school of though i.e. Ahl ul Sunnah Wal Jama’at. People of the magazine and after them some readers also, changed the unfolded arms with Shia and ‘Rafa Yadayn’ with Wahaabis. This is the most unfair one could ever to to this statement. And whenever I have demanded the proofs for these statements, it’s said “Attempts are being made to get those cassettes”. You can even find this statement on one of the sites raising these sort of questions also. I’m waiting for those attempts to get successful since beginning of this research and have found that people before me have been waiting since years.

Then a tiny pic is used as a reference which is from a book written against the Doctor. I would like to have the original magazine because scanned pages can be found everywhere from the ‘books’. Anyone can write anything in the book and then scan it as a reference? Mind-blowing, isn’t it?











5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Then a video is given as a ‘Proof’. When I saw that clip, it was really tempered with (by cutting / editing some parts of it). In it, Doctor promised that he would sit there for the whole night to clarify all of their doubts. Still that clip contained only a few minutes of Doctor’s response.

We need to understand the following:

1. Every Deobandi is not Gustakh. If some of their elders have written terrible things, it doesn’t mean that every person of that school accepts or follows their sayings.

2. If someone is “proved” as a Gustakh, then he no longer remains a Muslim. Obviously there is no question of offering prayer behind him in that case. According to Doctor’s verdict Gustakh-e-Rasool should be given death penalty according to Islamic law. In fact the law of death penalty for Gustakh-e-Rasool was approved only after Doctor’s detailed arguments on the matter.

3. There are numerous examples where Deobandis are Asiq-e-Rasool SallallaahoAlayheWasallima and show the required respect in this matter. I know about many of such examples, and you might also have known such examples. The principal of Jamiya Ashrafiya (Lahore's leading Deobandi institute) attend Mahfil-e-Milad about every year. He is full of love and respect of the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima and was an eye witness of the miracle of Ism-e-Muhammad SallallaahoAlayheWasallima that happened at a Milad night. When some Salafi scholars tried to negate that miracle, he stood firm and defended it. And you may have seen the News on this Eid Milad un Nabwi SallallaahoAlayheWasallima on GEO that Moo e Mubarak was placed in the Sehan of Jameya Ashrafiyah here at Lahore campus where he’s the principal, and was said that we believe that Aaqah SallallaahoAlayheWasalima Is right here with us and listening to our prayers.

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

4. In the case of that clip, Doctor clearly stated that all Deobandis are not Gustakh, and no one informed him about any objectionable belief of that particular Deobandi scholar i.e. Professor Idrees. This was also confirmed (in that clip) by some Sunni scholar that he didn’t inform Doctor about his detailed beliefs.


Now ask a few questions from yourself:

1. If we are to judge Doctor’s beliefs on such matters, what is a more authentic source for it?

- a short, 25-years older, video clip in which answers of Doctor have been edited to defame him

--- OR ---

- thousands of lectures and hundreds of book in which Doctor has elaborated his beliefs with all the details

2. If the beliefs of Doctor are really such (as presented by the clip) then why they had to rely on an (edited) clip which was made around 25 years ago. Why, during a period of a quarter of a century, they couldn’t get any thing else to prove their claim? (In fact the person who has uploaded this has written in its description: “The video quality is low, because it was made with a Mobile Phone”. It’s not the video which is uploaded by that man himself. That’s on google video I guess. I myself have seen it written in the discription I wonder those scholars were so advanced to have a camera in a mobile phone 27 to 28 years ago, though it was apparently not available even in USA at that time).

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

3. Dr Sahib’s services for Ahl-us-Sunnah are unmatchable, and history would prove it (Inshallah). His Dora-e-Bukhari alone has converted 200 Salafi scholars of Europe in to Sunni school while hundreds of television viewers have admitted their conversion through letters. Dr Sahib never asks them to convert; it is his way of presenting things with impresses them. Now, what is the contribution of others towards the Sunni cause? Fatwas are not the only way to serve this cause; it requires a lot more which Dr Sahib is doing with all the success (Al-Hamdu Lillah).

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

In a nutshell:

1. Deobandi is not a synonymous of Gustakh. Many of them are not Gustakh.

2. Doctor’s stand about Gustakh-e-Rasool is more than clear.

3. If you want to learn about Doctor’s views then listen to him directly, and do not make your impression based on some 28-years old (edited) clips and Deeds Shoneeds

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

(4) Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE AND ACCEPT that the Professor's "dreams" attributed to our beloved Prophet are TRUE?
Hear it yourself, then decide.


Yeah, I’ve already heard it like hundred times. False things have always been attributed to great personalities of Islam. So Quran has asked us to authenticate any news before believing in it. [In Sura Hujrat 49:6]

O Believers! If some wicked person brings you any news, inquire thoroughly into its truth (lest) you should cause (undue) harm to a people unknowingly, and later feel regret for what you have done.

So lots of things are either falsely attributed to Dr. Tahir ul Qadri or are quoted out of context to mislead people. So you are suggested to always authenticate such news, before believing in them.
As far as the issue of the dream is concerned, it is briefly addressed here:

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

The Dream Summarized

In one of his speeches, he described one of his dreams. The summary of Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri's words follow here:

”In a dream I saw that there are a lot of people gathered in a ground. Someone told me that the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima is present there and is very angry that why people of Pakistan have done nothing for Islam. On this I went to the Prophet SallallahoAlayheWasallim and begged forgiveness on the behalf of my country fellows. After some time, the Prophet SallallahoAlayheWasallima's anger reduced and He accepted my invitation to come to Pakistan. He asked me to make arrangements of the travel including the ticket of the journey.”

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Propaganda against that Dream:

People, who were against Doctor, tried to make this a scandal and raised lots of objections on it. A so called religious Jamat of Pakistan got the cassette of the speech, thoroughly tempered it by omitting various parts of it, and then distributed it in the masses to confuse the people. They changed the whole theme of the speech by cutting various parts of the speech and joining them together. This was a very shameful act which was done in an attempt to degrade Doctor. A newspaper was also involved in it and launched a full-fledged campaign against Doctor.

With the blessings of Allah, all these campaigns to damage the reputation of Doctor eventually failed. The owner and chief editor of that news paper later did toba and have accepted many times that it was among the darkest acts he ever did.

Objections against the Dream:

Major objections raised about the dream were the following:

1. Doctor is using cheap ways to win popularity and hence he talks about his dreams in every other speech.

2. Why did the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ask Doctor for the arrangements of the travel, including the ticket? Is the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima dependant on Doctor (Na Uzu Billah)?

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Answers to Objections:

1. Several thousand speeches / lectures of Doctor are available in audio / video format. There are only few speeches in which he mentioned about his dreams. So saying that "Doctor is using cheap ways to win popularity and hence talks about his dreams in every other speech" is very far from reality.

2. Doctor didn't narrate his dream in a public gathering. Even its cassette was not issued for masses. He rather shared this in a close circle of his companions. Doing so is directly the Sunnah of the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima. The Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima used to narrate his dreams to Sahaba and Sahaba used to narrate their dreams to him. There is nothing objectionable in sharing a dream with one's companions.

3. If narration of a dream to others is called as "cheap ways to win popularity", then what would you say about the numerous books written by the elders of every school of thought in which they have described their dreams?

4. Dreams are subject to interpretation ‘Tabeer’. E.g. Imam Bukhari saw that he is removing flies from the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima. It was interpreted that he would remove the weak Ahadith from the authentic Ahadith. Similarly when Hazrat Yousaf AlayheSalaam saw planets prostrating him, the planets were interpreted as his brothers. Similarly Dr. Sahib interpreted his dream as: "Serving the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima means serving Islam. Ticket is a sign of excessive traveling for the preaching of Islam. The Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima's anger is an indication that all of us should mend our ways."

Denying of a dream is a Kufr in itself. I can not bare such a Sin like ‘Kufr’ by denying his precious dreams. And especially which are attributed to our Akaabir and Awliya and then above all our Aaqah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima.

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It’s in Qur’an in Surah Yunus Ayat: 64 :-

“There is for them the good news (of honour and recognition) in the life of the world, and (also of forgiveness and intercession) in the Hereafter. (Or there are blessed spiritual visions in this world in the form of pious dreams, and in the Hereafter in the shape of effulgent disclosures of Allah’s Absolute Beauty and Sight.) The Commands of Allah never change. That is the colossal achievement.”

In all the Tafaseer of Qur’an majeed it’s written and told that here in this ayah, ‘Good News’ refer to those pious dreams which the pious people are blessed with. All the Mufassireen from Imam Jurair Rehmatullaahalayh to Imam Aloosi RehmatullaahAlayh have authenticated this statement in their Tafaseer.

At another place in Qur’an majeed in Surah Yusuf Ayat. 6:

“In the same way your Lord will choose you (for a divine station) and will teach you how to infer conclusions (i.e. the knowledge of the interpretation of dreams) and will perfect His Favour upon you and the House of Ya‘qub (Jacob) as He perfected it upon your fathers (grandfather and great grandfather) Ibrahim (Abraham) and Ishaq (Isaac). Indeed your Lord is All-Knowing, Most Wise”

So denying those dreams, will lead us to the ‘Kufr’. And that’s not affordable trust me. Imam Ibn e Sereen Rehmatullaahalayh, Allama Abdul Ghani Nablasi RehmatullaahAlayh in Tabeer al Rubaa has quoted a Hadeeth Shareef:

“A person who does not believe in pious dreams, doesn’t believe in Allaah and the day of Judgment”.

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Imam Abu al-Hassan Ash`ari who is an Imam in the world of Ahl ul Sunnah, writes in his beliefs a man becomes ‘Kafir’ by denying dreams. Now test yourself on the basis of above quotations. I here by quote some Ahadith Shareef related to the ‘Bisharaat’.

“Ab nabuwat baqi nahi rahi (haan is ka faiz) mubashiraat ki surat mein baqi hai”

Sahih Bukhari: 6589

“…. Mere baad mubashiraat aur bishaartain hon gi”

Tirmidi as Sunan: 2272

You can check these both out. I guess I don’t need to give any more. We can see same sorts of tabeeraat in our Akabir’s books and lives. Personal oppositions on one side, but one should think a million times before mocking at the things which are told by our Aqaah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima.

“Jo shakhs naik, acha khwaab dekhay tou uss per khush ho”

Sahih Muslim: 2261

I guess I have cleared the matter of dreams now. And I can say it loud that “Yes! I honestly believe in his dreams with all my heart and soul, Alhamdulillaah”.





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For point no. 5, can you find any reference there? Please inform me if there’s some.

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8) Where you aware - prior to the arrival of the Professor to South Africa - that he performs his Salaah behind the Imaams of Wahaabis, Deobandis and Shias, etc?

I hope you give some authentic wording as a reference this time at least.

"I do not only like performing Salaah behind the Wahabis and Shias but whenever I get the opportunity I perform Salaah behind them"

O my goodness. Trust me I never knew that blames are such easy things to be put on someone’s personality. No authentic proof is given for the statement and yet it’s used at different places as a ‘REFERENCE’ for different questions. Awesome! Isn’t it? Then you gave a video as a proof. I have already explained the health and reality of that clip. You can check it once again.
And I’ll suggest you brothers to remain quiet on issue of South Africa. Trust me..

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9) Do you agree with the statement of the Professor when he stated that his mission is not to work for the loftiness of Sunni-Hanafiyat or for the school of the Ahle Sunnat?
Are you sure?
"I am not working for the loftiness of Hanafiyat or for the school of the Ahle Sunnat". Reference : Nawaa-e-Waqt Magazine, 19 December 1986, page 4.
Please give this Magazine’s scanned page to me. I would love to read it if there is such statement. Because I have found hundreds and thousands of speeches in which he is working for the loftiness of Ahl ul Sunnah Aqaaed and have read over a dozen books which defend the Ahl ul Sunnah quite strongly. I would love to give a reference for such statement and at the same time would request you to provide a stronger reference, may be the scanned page?
“Sirf ek hi sabq detay detay meri umar beeti, dey raha hoon deta rahoon ga
Faqeerana aaye sada ker chalay,
Mian khush raho hum dua ker chalay
Aur yehi sabaq detay detay hum bhi chalay jayen gey. Bas ek baat pallay bandh lo, saray A’maal kaam ki cheez hain, magar wo kaam tab ayen gey jab Mustafa ki ghulaami ho gi, Hazoor ki muhabbat hogi, Hazoor ki Naukri ho gi, Hazoor ki Zaat se nisbat ho gi”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9tdNd0NUHI
See from 7:00 onwards.

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See from whom he is taking oath and what oath is he taking here. Oath of Rasool Allaah’s SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ghulami and naukri. Taking oath from the youth, us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRJQgM66Hag&feature=PlayList&p=B9B13D347ED72061&index=2
See here whom is he attacking and whom is he defending? And see the success he had in abroad where it’s really a need of the work he is doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMgw5XrjVUI
See here whom is he attacking..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbCCo_vlIno&feature=related
Can you see whom loftiness is he working for? I hope you can.

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10) Do you endorse the statement of the Professor when he said that Khomeini lived like Hazrat Ali and died like Imam Husain and that love for Khomeini demands that every child should become a Khomeini?

Once Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri met Khomeini during an international conference, and asked him about his views about Sahaba. Khomeini gave positive views about Sahaba at that time.

As far as your objection is concerned, we need to understand 2 things:

1. Doctor used a Tashbih (i.e. simile) here and every student of Ilm-ul-Blagha knows that one common reason (known as Waja-e-Shiba) is enough to use a Tashbih. It never means that the 2 things have becomes identical. For example the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima said that the scholars of his Ummah would be like the prophets of Bani Israel. This certainly not makes the scholars equal in rank to the prophets, but the Tashbih is given based on one common reason: both would invite people to the religion. Hazoor SallallaahoAlayheWasallima called Hazrat Ali RadiAllaahoAnho as Lion of Allah. One can find thousands of bad and ugly things in a lion but the thing He was using to give the Tashbih was his bravery. It was similar to Lion. So there should not be any misconception here.

2. Khomeini, though a Shia leader, did a few wonderful things during his reign. He over-threw the American influence from Iran and brought about a revolution. He was the only one to issue a reward (at government level) for the killer of Sulman Rushdi, the Gustakh-e-Rasool. He never compromised against all the pressure exerted by America and Europe.

So, though he was a Shia, yet he took brave steps to save the honor of the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima. The Tashbih was given on the basis of these brave steps of him. I think if the greatest sinner on this earth does something to save the honor of the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima and ‘Umm ul Momineen’ Hazrat Ayesha RadiAllaahoAnha AlayheSalaam, he should be praised for that step. Or not?

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So this Tashbih (like many examples in Ilm-ul-Blagha) should be taken as the acknowledgement of only one characteristic of Khomeini’s personality.



(11) Is it permissible for a Sunni Muslim to attend the death anniversary gathering. and make Dua-e-Maghfirat for Khomeini, can such a person doing so be called a Sunni?

Let’s look into the proofs now.

no refutation has been reported yet. If he didnt attended death anniversary of kafir shia's leader Khomeini then he should declare it publicly.

O my goodness. I was waiting for a strong proof like a video of some news channel or a cutting of some Iranian newspaper. But.. Listen brother, if we start putting allegations like this on some person, we can come up with thousands of allegations in one single day. That we have heard this thing OR we think this, if we are wrong, why has no refutation yet arrived? Please, I beg you. Islam is not a thing to be played with. It’s a proper Deen and enjoys an immense dignity. I’d request to remove these thoughts from your minds now. If someone gets some strong news related to this, then please inform me. I’ll get it checked with my mates at Minhaj ul Quran International, who are directly in link with the Doctor himself.

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(12) Do you endorse the belief of your Professor that if you have to accumulate all the knowledge of the Sahaaba-e-Kiraam, it will not even be equivalent to the knowledge of Hazrat Ali?

Ali Maula Sher e Khuda AlayheSalaam RadiAllaahoAnho was named as ‘Madinah tul Ilm’. But let’s see what you say about the reference.

Quotation from "Fitna tahiriya ki haqeqat"
Roznama jang 19 may 1987 kai eik mazmoon mein jo un ka shaya kerda hai
kehtai hein kai tamam sahab karam bhi ikhattay ho jaen to ilm mein hazrat Ali karam ullah Wajhahul kareem ka koe sanee nahin.


See, the reference you used is ‘Fitnah e Tahiriya ki Haqeeqat’ once again. I’d like to ask a simple question. If we want to judge AlaHazrat AlayheRehma’s beliefs and want to get faiz from his teachings, what would we consult? Either the books written by the authors of Tablighi Jamaat, Wahabis? Or the original scriptures of AlaHazrat AlayheRehma himself?
Different specialties of different Sahaba are present in the history. If Hazrat Ibn e Abbas RadiAllaahoAnho was said to be the best narrator of Holy Qur’an, then it doesn’t mean that other Sahaba Karaam were degraded in this regard. Isn’t it? In the same way if our Beloved SallallaahoAlayheWasallima discussed Hazoor Ali Maula’s knowledge at so many places, then discussing it in an interview must not be a thing to be stretched in any negative angle? In one place Hazoor Ali Maula himself states that Hazoor Siddique e Akbar’s knowledge was more than ours. Here we can also take the meaning in a direction that he was so down to earth and so respectful towards his elders that he didn’t want to degrade them in any way, without taking this thing as a comparison just like the Wahabis do. Talking about Hazoor Ali Maula’s knowledge we shall have a look at some of the Ahadith Shareef.

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Hazoor Ali Maula RadiAllaahoAnho se riwaayat hai k Hazoor Nabi e Kareem SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ne farmaya; Mein hikmat ka ghar hooon aur Ali uss ka darwaza hai.

{Tirmidi Shareef: 3723}

Hazrat Abdullah Ibn e Abbas RadiAllaahoAnho farmaatay hain k Hazoor Nabi e Kareem SallallaahoaalyheWasallima ne farmaya; Mein Ilm ka shaher hoon aur Ali iss ka darwaza hai lihaza jo iss shehr mein aana chahe wo iss darwaaze se aaye.

{Imam Hakim fil Mustadrak: 151}

Hazoor Ali Maula RadiAllahoAnaho ne farmaaya; Mein Quran e Majeed ki har aayat k baray mein jaanta hoon k wo kis k baray, kis jaga aur kis per naazil hui. Beshak meray Rab ne mujay both zyaada samajh wala dil aur Fasih zubaan ataa farmayee hai.

{Abu Nuaiym fi Huliya til Awliya: 153}

Hazoor Abu Ishaaq RadiAllaahoAnho riwaayat kertay hain k Hazrat Abdullah RadiAllaahoAnho farmaaya kertay thay k Shehr e Madinah mein sab se acha faisla farmaanay walay Ali Ibn e Talib thay.

{Hakim fil Mustadrak: 158}

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Keeping these Ahadeeth Shareef in mind, if one utters such words that he has no match in knowledge among Sahaba Karaam, then I find no gustaakhi in it. Don’t have a clue that from where you got it in your mind. And by the way look at the statement quoted in inverted comma’s in Urdu, and look at it’s translation. Once again you will notice some irresponsibility there. And once again I’d request that don’t bring comparisons in minds like Wahabis do. This was the thing started from Khawaarij. We all are Qadris, and Alhamdulillaah we are proud ones. If something great is known to us about our Akaabir then we should utter it. And the one uttering them shouldn’t be labeled as ‘Shia’.

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At the end of this page, I saw some statements before. They are not present now. But I have them from another website. Won’t reveal the name of the website or the organization because it’s going to be something about criticizing on someone. Let me paste the lines now.

Now this is where the fun really starts, lets see if you can score 12 out of 12. Unfortunately there are no prizes to be won for a 100% score. If the admirers of the Professor respond correctly to the above 12 questions and which correspond with our answers, then the Professor can never be a Sunni, by YOUR OWN ENDORSEMENT. But if they remain silent, duck, dive and dodge these questions like their Professor is presently doing, then you all are placing your Sunniyat in jeopardy.
~ The balls are now in their court.


Though the brother tried hard to consult dictionary for difficult words but yet he lacked one important thing, and that’s responsibility while doing something for the betterment of Deen. See the first line of the passage. See the word FUN. Do I need to say anything about it? This word tells the whole story behind all these allegations and propaganda. Here, I’d like to say that I exclude all the Ulema who are ranked very high among the Ummah. False things with fake references reach them, and they are convinced to make a wrong decision against a person. I’ll make this point very clear in future posts. Trust me brother, neither we nor the Professor, needs your certificate of Sunniyat. Don’t you worry about it. Thanks for considering our position and paying so much attention and getting concerned about us. By the way, I really don’t think that I need to make fun of the word ‘Balls’ here. Isn’t it?





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Then you gave a list. Let’s discuss a few names out of it and then I’ll give my list which will contain some personalities whom ‘Sunniyat’ you can’t even doubt about.


First name you gave is of Syyedi Taaj ush Shariyah Damat Barkaatahum Aali. I’ll not comment on him. All I want to say is that if you see the Fatwa he has given, is all based on misconception. The questions put forward to him were baked and made into a shape where a Mufti totally gets convinced to issue a fatwa of the person being discussed. You can check it yourself. All the references were given which don’t enjoy a good health. Statements were chaned before presenting. What can we do more to disgrace a personality? I once again say, I don’t say a single word about that exalted personality.

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Then there are a few more names, out of whom I’d like to mention a few with a few things related to them as well.
Allama Syed Ahmed Saeed Kazmi
I don’t have a clue that why did you enter his name in the list of Ulema who OPPOSE the Doctor? Ghazali-e-Zamaa, Allama Sayed Ahmed Saeed Kazmi RehmatullaahAlayh, though had differences on the Diyat issue, remained an admirer of Dr. Sahib till his death. The biggest proofs of this thing are his sons.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3250
And let me quote his statement about Doctor. In 1981, he declared:
"This young man has been gifted with a great potential and I have great hopes attached with him. All of you become a witness and listen to my words carefully. Allah has placed such a Noor of Fuzat-e-Muhammadi SallallaahoAlayheWasallima in his breast which would keep on increasing with the passage of time and would benefit a whole world … May Allah enlighten the whole Islamic World and the world of Ahl-e-Sunnat with his Ilmi, Fikri and Ruhani Noor. Whatever I have said would happen Insha Allah."
Though he had a difference on the topic of Diyat, but still he used to love Doctor as his most brilliant student, till his death.

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Allama Muhammad Yaqoob Khan Golarrvi.


One should ask him that whom is he bait with? If with the Sajjaada Nasheen of Golra Shareef Hazrat Marhoom Peer Naseer ud Din Naseer Golarrvi, the one who was on the gaddi of Hazoor Mehr Ali Shah Golarrvi Sahab, then he must look out what he is doing. Whom is he opposing and what a crime is he doing while going against his own Murshid (if he is a mureef of Hazoor Naseer Sahib Marhoom RehmatullaahAlayh)

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Mufti Ashraf Asif Jalali.


This is the name which caused this much delay in the posting of response. When I called him up, his secretary Mr. Muhammad Fayyaz picked up the phone and said “ki puchna jay?”. I said I want to know Mufti Asif Sahab’s point of view on the issue of Professor Tahir ul Qadri. He said “Mein puchna waan”. And then after asking him he said, “Tusi inj kero, Gujranwala dey hik Mufti Sahab ne kitaab likhi hai, Abu Dawood Sadik sahb di kitab Khatre ki Ghanti, oh parh lao”. I said but I wanted to know his point of view. He replied, “Aap kitab parh lain, jo kuch likha hai wohi inn k bhi khyalaat hain”. I asked that are you in his league? He said yes.


Now this was the ‘indirect’ conversation between and this Mufti Sahab. Now let’s examine his referred book and it’s author..

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Mufti Abu Dawood Muhammad Sadiq Qadri
Now here in the list, he comes again. The author of the same ‘book’, ‘khatre ki ghanti’. I have already shown you some of his knowledgeable facts. If you don’t trust me, one of you brothers who are close to him, should go to him and ask him that what happened to him when he went on the invitation of Hazoor Zinda Peer RehmatullaahAlayh of Ghamkol Shareef. There he said that Hazoor you have made a mistake to call this Doctor here for the lecture. He’s not even a Sunni. The reply which Hazoor Zinda Peer AlayheRehma gave should be asked from Mr. Abu Dawood Qadri Sahab himself. Please go ahead, it’s an open invitation. Then after that Hazoor Zinda Peer was asked that why did you do so? He replied that when I go in the Noori Bargah e Risaalat Ma’ab for the Haaziri, I find this man sitting there before me. And when I take permission to come back, this man remains there even after that. Then how can ‘I’ not grant him permission to give away the lecture here? And also his act of writing down the name of Minhaj ul Quran and the institute of Al Azhar University of Egypt as deviants in his ‘Book’. From where Hazoor Tajushariya got a Khitaab recently.


Mufti Muhammad Hussain Naeemi

I’ll be clearing this name in my list inshAllaah.

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Now I will discuss Fatwa issued by some of the Ulema from the above list against Doctor.

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Complete Text of the Fatwa

طاہرالقادری کے بارے میں مفتی اعظم پاکستان حضرت علامہ مفتی محمد وقارالدین قادری رضوی علیہ رحمتہ القوی ارشاد فرماتے ہیں، "طاہرالقادری نے جب یہ کہنا شروع کیا کہ بریلوی، دیوبندی' غیرمقلد اور شیعہ اختلافات فروعی ہیں اور سب کو مسلمان شمار کیا تو اس سے ظاہر ہو گیا کہ وہ پاکستان میں نیا "ندوہ" قائم کر رہا ہے اور اس کے نزدیک حضرت ابوبکروعمر رضی اللہ تعالی عنہما کو گالی دینا اور ام المومنین حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ طیبہ طاہرہ رضی اللہ تعالی عنہا پر تہمت لگانا فروعی بات ہے اور اس کے نزدیک یہ لوگ مسلمان ہیں اور جن لوگوں کی کتابیں توہین نبی صلی اللہ تعالی علیہ وآلہ وسلم سے بھری پڑی ہیں ان کا بھی مسلمان قرار دینا ان کے مزعومہ فروعی اختلافات کا نتیجہ ہے۔ لہذا ایسا شخص سنی کیسے ہو سکتا ہے؟ اور اب حال ہی میں جب پارٹیوں سے اتحاد کیا ہے اس سے بھی یہ حقیقت آشکارا ہو جاتی ہے لہذا یہ سنیت کو تباہ کرنے والا ہے اہل سنت سے اس کا کوئی تعلق نہیں اس کے ہم خیال اور ہم نوا مولوی و امام، امامت کے لائق نہیں اہلسنت ان سے اپنا تعلق منقطع کر لیں" وقار الفتاوی جلد ۱ ص ۳۲۸

الجواب صحیح: ابو الصالح محمد قاسم قادری
کتبھ: محمد عقیل رضا العطاری المدنی

Analysis of the Fatwa

Now I would briefly analyze the complete fatwa point by point (Inshallah).

Text of the Fatwa

طاہرالقادری نے جب یہ کہنا شروع کیا کہ بریلوی، دیوبندی' غیرمقلد اور شیعہ اختلافات فروعی ہیں اور سب کو مسلمان شمار کیا تو اس سے ظاہر ہو گیا کہ وہ پاکستان میں نیا "ندوہ" قائم کر رہا ہے اور اس کے نزدیک حضرت ابوبکروعمر رضی اللہ تعالی عنہما کو گالی دینا اور ام المومنین حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ طیبہ طاہرہ رضی اللہ تعالی عنہا پر تہمت لگانا فروعی بات ہے اور اس کے نزدیک یہ لوگ مسلمان ہیں

Analysis

From the wording of the fatwa (طاہرالقادری نے جب یہ کہنا شروع کیا کہ) it seems that Dr Sahib said these things many times. But no where in the Fatwa even a single reference has been provided. Did Mufti Sahib forget to provide the reference?

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No. The fact is that this Mufti Sahib CANNOT provide EVEN A SINGLE REFERENCE where Dr Sahib (explicitly) said that (حضرت ابوبکروعمر رضی اللہ تعالی عنہما کو گالی دینا اور ام المومنین حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ طیبہ طاہرہ رضی اللہ تعالی عنہا پر تہمت لگانا فروعی بات ہے).

There is one statement of Dr Sahib about فروعی اختلافات (i.e. minor differences) in his book "Firqa Parasti Ka Hatima Kunkar Mumkin Hai". This book was not written by Dr Sahib but is a compilation from his speeches. During the compilation the actual words can get changed. But even the words of that book does not say anything which Mufti Sahib has attributed to Dr Sahib. The book reads as:

مسلمانوں میں سے کوئی بھی کسی اور نبی یا رسول کی شریعت کا نہ انکار کرتا ہے، نہ اسلام کے سوا کسی اور دین کو مانتا ہے۔ سب مسلمان توحید و رسالت، وحی اور کتب سماوی کے نزول، آخرت کے انعقاد، ملائقہ کے وجود، حضور کی خاتمیت، نماز، روزہ، زکوہ اور حج کی فرضیت وغیرہ جیسے معتقدات اور اعمال پر یکساں ایمان رکھتے ہیں اور اگر کہیں کوئی اختلاف ہے تو صرف فروعی حد تک اور وہ بھی ان کی علمی تفصیلات اور کلامی شروحات متعین کرنے میں ہے۔

In this paragraph Dr Sahib has enlisted around 14 things which are common among various schools of thought. After enlisting these he said that there is no basic difference (in these 14 things) and even if there is a difference it is only a minor one. E.g. there is no basic difference about the fasting in Ramadhan, though the exact timings of Sahr and Iftar may differ among the schools. So there are only فروعی اختلافات (i.e. minor differences) about these 14 things.
So where exactly Dr Sahib has declared that (حضرت ابوبکروعمر رضی اللہ تعالی عنہما کو گالی دینا اور ام المومنین حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ طیبہ طاہرہ رضی اللہ تعالی عنہا پر تہمت لگانا فروعی بات ہے). Please do visit your beloved Mufti Sahib and ask him about a reference of this.

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Text of the Fatwa

اور جن لوگوں کی کتابیں توہین نبی صلی اللہ تعالی علیہ وآلہ وسلم سے بھری پڑی ہیں ان کا بھی مسلمان قرار دینا ان کے مزعومہ فروعی اختلافات کا نتیجہ ہے۔ لہذا ایسا شخص سنی کیسے ہو سکتا ہے؟

Analysis

Where has Dr Sahib said that a Gustakh-e-Rasool can be a Muslim? He rather proved in the court that the Islamic punuishment of Gustakh-e-Rasool is death. So it is yet another allegation without providing any reference!

Text of the Fatwa

اور اب حال ہی میں جب پارٹیوں سے اتحاد کیا ہے اس سے بھی یہ حقیقت آشکارا ہو جاتی ہے

Analysis

What is this? I guess it is about the event of اعلاميه وحدت (i.e. “Declaration of Unity”) which was signed between DrSahib's jamat and the jamat of Sajid Naqvi. It was a 12-points declaration one of which was that Khulafa-e-Rashedin are the sacred personalities of Islam and no one is allowed to speak bad about anyone of them. So it was a declaration totally in conformity with the Sunni beliefs. It was not a formal alliance as such. So what is bad about it?

Mufti Sahib has seen something objectionable about this collaboration (though it was not an alliance and it was meant to ensure the respect of Khulafa-e-Rashdin). What are Mufti Sahib's comments about Molana Noorani Sahib, who formally formed an alliance with Shias (including the same jamat of Sajid Naqavi) and with Deobandis and Wahabis and launched election campaign side by side with them?

I hope Mufti Sahib would somehow find a way to explain that Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri’s declaration (to protect Khulafa-e-Rashedin’s respect) is objectionable but Noorani Sahib’s free mixing with other schools is totally OK.

5/25/09

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Text of the Fatwa

لہذا یہ سنیت کو تباہ کرنے والا ہے اہل سنت سے اس کا کوئی تعلق نہیں

Analysis

Is Mufti Sahib a licence issuing authority (of Suniyat) and does Dr Sahib really require a "Certificate of Sunniyat" from him (or even from anyone else)?

Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri has received the “certificate” of Sunniyat from some towering personalities of Ahl-us-Sunnah. I'll quote from 3 of such personalities, who are regarded as much superior to this Mufti Sahib (you can verify this from any Sunni elder).

1. Certificate by Sheikh-ul-Islam Khawaja Qamr-ud-Din Sayalvi:

"Inshallah the day would come when this young man would be the greatest asset for Muslim World and Ahl-us-Sunnah. I won't be alive then, but most of you would see it shining on the skies of knowledge. Because of his knowledge, thoughts and struggle, the Aqaid of Ahl-us-Sunnah would get a support and the status of knowledge would increase. The Maslak of Ahl-e-Sunat is attached with this boy."

2. Certificate by Ghazali-e-Zaman Syed Ahmad Saeed Kazmi:

In 1981, he declared:

"All of you become a witness and listen to my words carefully. Allah has placed such a Noor of Fuzat-e-Muhammadi(صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم) in his breast which would keep on increasing with the passage of time and would benefit a whole world … May Allah enlighten the whole Islamic World and the world of Ahl-e-Sunnat with his Ilmi, Fikri and Ruhani Noor. Whatever I have said would happen Insha Allah."

3. Certificate by Zia-ul-Umat Justice Pir Karam Shah Sahib Al-Azhari:

"In this era of afflictions, when I think about this man (i.e. Dr. Qadri), my heart fills with the feelings of thankfulness of Allah. It is His blessing that He has supported us through this Mard-e-Mujahid. … May Allah give him a long life!"











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Now my list of Ulema o Mashaikh who support this Sunni Alim e Deen.
1. Hazrat Peer Khwaja Deewan Bakhtyar Saeed Muhammad Chishti (Sajjada Nasheen Aastana e Aaliya Hazrat Baba Fareed ud Din Masood Ganj Shakar Pak Patan Shareef)
2. Hazrat Peer Allama Sahibzada Muhammad Ameen ul Hasanat Shah (Son of
Hazrat Peer Karam Shah Al-Azhari Bhera Shareef)
{See the last video of the response, look how badly he is weeping during his lecture}

3. Hazrat Sahibzada Ateeq ur Rehman Mujaddidi (Sajjada Nasheen Aastana Dhangri Shareef Azad Kashmir)
4. Hazrat Peer Khwaja Moin ud Din Mehboob Koreja (Sajjada Nasheen Aastana Kot Mithan Shareef Rajan Pur) (Son of Great Sufi and poet Khawaja Ghulam Farid RehmatullaahAlayh kissing the hands of Doctor
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1215909763526&aid=1$pid=1215634080207
5. Hazrat Peer Makhdoom Saeed Nafees ul Hassan Bukhari (Sajjada Nasheen
Aastana Uch Shareef)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQS3mBbNKSQ&feature=channel_page
6. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Azmat ullah Shah (Sajjada Nasheen Naqib Abaad Shareef)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhHs8jxk34&feature=channel_page
7. Hazrat Peer Makhdoom Saeed Chann Peer Qadri (Sajjada Nasheen Aastana Hazrat Mian Meer Lahore)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOfF_sGH3sM&NR=1
8. Hazrat Peer Jameel ur Rehman Chishti (Sajjada Nasheen Chishti Abad Shareef)
9. Hazrat Peer Habib Nawaz Sialvi (Sajjada Nasheen Sial Sharif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQS3mBbNKSQ&feature=channel_page
10. Peer Mohi ud Din Mehboob (Sajjada Nasheen Mehboob Abad Shareef)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idSF2cFcxio&feature=channel_page
11. Hazrat Peer Shibzada Allama Mian Muhammad Saleem Ullah Owaisi (Khateeb Jameya Masjid Data Darbaar Lahore)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQEgQLzZoHU&feature=channel_page
No Adeel Bhai, you really should not pray behind these Imams of Daata Darbar.

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12. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Muhammad Shehzad Mujaddidi
13. Peer Zawar ul Hassan (Multan Sharif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQS3mBbNKSQ&feature=channel_page
14. Hazrat Peer Nazim Hussain Shah
15. Hazrat Peer Syyed Muneerr Ali Shah (Nawabshah)
16. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Bani Ameen (Astaana Maanki Shareef)
17. Hazrat Peer Mubarak Shah Jilaani (Aastana Ghotki)
18. Hazrat Peer Syyed Sibagutullaah Shah Kilani (Sajaada Nasheen Ranipur Shareef)
19. Hazrat Peer Ghulam Mustafa Shah Gilani (Sajjada Nasheen Qambar Shareef)
20. Hazrat Peer Makhdoom Sahibzada Nadeem Ahmad Hashmi (Sajjada Nasheen Aastana Khora Shareef)
21. Hazrat Shafaat Rasool Qadri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6eauWhtNJg&feature=related

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22. Hazrat Peer Mian Mazhar Ali
23. Hazrat Peer Syyed Zia ullah Shah Jilani
24. Hazrat Peer Muhammad Karam ullaah
25. Hazrat Peer Mian Qasim Hashmi
26. Hazrat Peer Muneer Ahmad Naqshbandi
27. Hazrat Peer Mian Taseer Ahmad Alvi
28. hazrat Peer Sahibzada Asadullah Shah Galib
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24CHI3Owb6A&feature=channel
29. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Muhammad Faiz Shahid Faizi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGsqvNIprWY&feature=channel
30. Hazrat Peer Jaan Agha
31. Hazrat Peer Makhdoom Muhammad Ahsan
32. Hazrat Peer Fakhr Ahmad Mervi
33. Hazrat Peer Painda Muhammad Khan
34. Hazrat Sahibzada Ghulam Dastgeer Togeervi
35. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Abd ul Haadi Qadri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9j70HhKj0E&feature=related

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36. Makhdoom Peer Syyed Sarwar Hussain (Sajjada Nasheen Dargah e Aaliya Ajmer Shareef India)
37. Muhtaram Peer Sahibzada Bilal Ahmad Chishti (Zeb Sajjada Nasheen Dargah e Aaliya Ajmer Shareef)
38. Peer e Tareeqat Akhundzada Mohtaram Peer Hameed ullah Jaan Saifi Naqshbandi Mujaddidi
39. Peer e Archi, Hazrat Maulana Peer Saif ur Rehman Mubarak Shah Sahib Naqshbandi Mujaddidi (Founder of Silsila e Saifiyah Naqshbandiyah)
40. Allama Sufi Muhammad Ali Naqshbandi
41. Mufti Muhammad Abid Hussain Naqshbandi Mujaddidi
42. Doctor Muhammad Arif Naeemi
43. Mufti Muhammad Abd ul Quyyum Khan Hazarvi
44. Hadhrat Pir Sayyid Munawwar Husayn Shah Sahib Jama'ati ('Ali Pur Sharif)
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3227
45. Mufti al-Asr al-Shaykh Mujahid al-Chawdary,Bangladesh
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3972
46. Imam of Two Holy Mosques (Hermain Nushariferain) Shaykh Mahir Al-Muaiqely visited the Minhaj-ul-Quran International
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3576
47. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf
48. Dr Shaikh Tariq Ramadan
49. Shaykh Hakim Murad
50. Shaykh Nuh Keller
51. Dr Mohamed Mestiri

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52. Mufti Gul Rahman Qadri (Mufti Muhammad Gul Rahman Qadri one of the leading muftis in the UK, who headed the organising committee for the course, shed light on the importance of the course. He said whether people understood the reasons for organising this course or not, for me, the fact that someone like Shaykh-ul-Islam will be teaching Sahih-ul-Bukhari, is enough of a reason to attend. He said whenever Shaykh-ul-Islam speaks we are flooded by diamonds, rubies and gems of knowledge that we never new existed.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3190
Mufit Gul Rehman Qadri (one of the leading mufti in the UK) recieving ijazaa from Shaikh-ul-Islam
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216835499728&aid=1$pid=1215910377955)

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53. Mufti Abdul Rasool Mansoor Al azhari (http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3190)
54. Allama Hafiz Nazir Ahmad Qadri
55. Maulana Bustan Qadri
56. Allama Niyaz Ahmad Siddiqi
57. Allama Muhammad Ramzan Qadri

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60. Shaykh Habib Umar bin Salim bin Hafeez a great Shaykh and spiritual leader from the land of Hadramaut (Yemen),descends from a family whose lineage goes back to the Prophet, salla Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam.
Dar-ul-Mustafa Institute,Yemen:
The eastern section of Tarim offers the Dar al Mustafa for traditional Islamic teaching in Arabic and its satellite campus for intensive Arabic linguistics study at the Badr Language Institute. Shaykh Habib Umar bin Hafiz manages the school and is a renowned Islamic spiritual leader.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=2974
61. Muhammad Hashim Al Badr Al- Madni
Sheikh-ul-Islam With Shiekh Muhammad Hashim Albadr Al- Madni (Person who has the keys of Holy Prohet(SAW)'s Shrine)
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1215909763526&aid=1$pid=5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nknNsNxnDRA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXe_lcoPhtk
watch videos please in which he says that Hazoor Muhammad e Mustafa SallallaahoAlayheWasallima has sent Salaam for you people and gave Mihaj ul Quran the most Sacred Mud of the Shrine of Rasool Allaah SallallaahoAlayheWasallima and the Ghilaaf Mubarak of the Sacred most Shrine. He also told that when I was invited, I refused because I never go out of Madinah, but the same night Rasool Allaah SallallaahoAlayhWasallima came in my dream and said, go Tahir ul Qadri has invited you.

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62. Shiekh Abdullah Bin Bayah Vice President of the International Union of Muslim Scholars and Professor in king Abd-ul-Aziz University Jeddah. Belongs to Maliki School of Thought
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1215909763526&aid=1$pid=3
63. Khawja Sufi Khaksar
http://minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3231
64. Sayyed Azmat Husayn Shah, Nazim A’ala of Jamia Qamar-ul-Islam, Karachi, Pakistan was a special guest at the course. In his brief talk he said that he had come to the UK for the Sunni Conference last week. Once he had heard about this course he said that he had decided that he could not miss it especially when someone like Shaykh-ul-Islam Prof. Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri was teaching it.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3190
65. Allamah Abdul Latif Chowdhury (Fultali Saheb Qiblah) was born in 1913 (1321 Bangla) on Thursday in the village Fultali of Zakigonj, in the district of Sylhet, and is the son of a renowned scholar. His honourable father Mufti Maulana Abdul Majid Chowdhury (R) was a revered and famous Muslim cleric and jurist. He was a well known scholar and sage of the Indian sub-continent, whose fame is widespread throughout the country.
http://minhaj.org/en.php?tid=2813 ; http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216835499728&aid=1$pid=1209618701507 ; http://www.fultali.com/photoalbum.html
see pic number-98...and 121....and 128 and....131....and 135....and 136.....139....and 140...141....142...144.....145

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As Shaikh Muhammad Al Yaqubi al-Hassani (Sirya) http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=65 (As Shaykh Muhammad descends from a family whose lineage goes back to the Prophet, salla Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam, through his grandson Sayyiduna al-Hasan, radiya Allahu 'anhu. His ancestors also include some of the greatest scholars of Syria. His father, Shaykh Ibrahim al-Ya'qoubi (d. 1985/1406 H.), was one of the greatest scholars Syria saw in the past 50 years.
See Shaykh Muhammad Sahab with Dr Tahir Ul Qadri Sahab and also he visited Minhaj Ul Quran.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3038
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=10&aid=1$pid=10
for more info,pls visit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Yaqoubi

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67. Allama Mufti Muneer-uz-Zaman Chisti, Jamia Chistia, Roachdale

68. Allama Mufti Ansar-ul-Qadri, Halifax

69. Allama Mufti Luqman Farooqi, Jamia Jalalia, Rochdale

70. Allama Shah Jehaan Madni, Jami Masjid Gamgol Sharif, Manchester

71. Allama Hafiz Niaz Ahmed Siddiqi, Jami Masjid Gamgol Sharif, Birmingham

72. Maulana Azam Chisti, Jamia Chistia, Roachdale

73. Maulana Hafiz Noor Muhammad, Suneri Jami Masjid, Rochdale,

74. Allama Muhammad Sadiq Kauther, Jaimia Haidriya Choora Sharif Rochdale

75. Maulana Hafiz Muhammad Ishaq, Bilal Mosque, Rochdale

76. Maulana Muhammad Iqbal, Bilal Mosque, Rochdale

77. Allama Sultan Muhammad, Masjid-e-Quba, Rochdale

78. Allama Abd-us-Saeed, Birmingham

79. Allama Shahid Baber, Glasgow

80. Allama Anwar-ul-Mustafa Hamdami, Bradford

81. Allama Ghulam Rasool, Oldham Central Mosque, Green gate, Oldham

82. Allama Muhammad Shakoor, Oldham Central Mosque, Green gate ,Oldham

83. Allama Sayyad Shah Sb, Gainsborogh Mosque, Oldham

84. Maulana Muhammad Idrees, Manchester

85. Allama Hafiz Jameel Ahmad Rizvi, Manchester

86. Allama Maulana Muhammad Haneef Rizvi, Senior Scholar, UK

87. Maulana Sayyad Munawwar Shah, Blackburn

88. Maulana Sayyed Bahar Shah, Blackburn

89. Maulana Arshad Misbahi, Central Mosque, Manchester

90. Allama Qari Nazir Ahmed Qadri, Jamia Ghosia, Stoke on Trent




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Allama Qari Muhammad Hanif, Gulzar-e-Madinah Mosque, Leicester
92. Allama Qari Muhammad Ishaq, Jami Mosque, Bristol ;
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=139
93. Shaykh As’ad Muhammad Saeed as-Sagharji (Head Imam of al-Jame'al-Umayyad, Syria).
Shaykh As’ad Muhammad Saeed as-Sagharji [visiting scholar] lives in Damascus. He is one of the greatest Faqihs (jurists) of Syria. He is author of the famous work "Al-Fiqh al-Hanafi wa Adillatuhu". Not only is he a great scholar of Hadith, but also a deeply spiritual personality. His works are included as part of syllabuses in Islamic colleges and universities all over the world including at the prestigious al-Azhar of Egypt. Shaykh as-Sagharji is the Head Imam of renowned Jami'ah Masjid 'Umawi (Ummayad Mosque), comprising 7 permanent imams who are among the religious authorities and scholars of Syria.
Shaykh Asad Sahab with Dr Taher Ul Qadri Sahab.
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3192
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFQKSLLh5I. See what he says about Doctor’s book Al Minhaj us Sawi Min Ahadith il Nabwi SalallaahoAlayheWasallima. {http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216668570544&aid=1$pid=1216668570544 }

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94. Shaykh as-Sayyid Yusuf Hashim Ar-Rifai (A leading Shafi scholar, author and former minister, Kuwait)
Shaikh Yusuf Sayyid Hashim al-Rifa`i, born in Kuwait in 1351/1932. A Shafi`i scholar, former minister of state, educator, Sufi, and author of many Books, studied Islamic Law in Damascus and Shafi`i jurisprudence under Shaykh Muhammad Salih of Kuwait and others. Shaykh Yusuf is a descendent of the Prophet - Allah bless and greet him - through the Friend (walî) of Allah Most High, Shaykh Ahmad al-Rifa`i. He was made a member of Parliament in Kuwait in 1963, minister of telecommunications and postage in 1964, and he served as the minister of state from 1965 to 1970. He is also a Shaykh of the Rifa`i Tariqa founded by his ancestor, having been authorized by Shaykh Makki al-Kattani of Damascus, whose teacher Ibrahim al-Rawi was the student of Shaykh Abu al-Huda al-Sayyadi, one of the outstanding recent figures in the Rifa`i way. (
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216835514039&aid=1$pid=1209632136322)

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95. Hazoor Syyedi Wa Murshidi Chan Jee Sarkaar Peer Tanveer Haider Shah Chishti Qadri Haideri Damat BarkaatahumAaaliya. Many friends out here asked me about his view about the Doctor. So here I am very proudly writing down his name with bold letters.
96. Hadhrat Pir Sayyid Munawwar Husayn Shah Sahib Jama'ati ('Ali Pur Sharif)
http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3227

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97. Jamia Naeemiya (the biggest Sunni Madarsa in Lahore) support Dr Sahib and they officially presented their services to manage Minhaj-ul-Quran's programs. Their principal, the well-known Mufti Sarfraz Naeemi Sahib, he appreciates Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri's efforts and visited Minhaj-ul-Quran's headquarters a few months ago. And if often invited on every big Ijtimah and Islamic gathering.


98. Jamiya Nizamiya, another major Sunni madrasa of Ahl ul Sunnah.


99. Sheikh-ul-Hadith Molana Abdu-ut-Tawab Siddiqi, he greatly praised Dr Sahib and his translation of Quran in the opening ceremony.


100. Mufti Muhammad Iqbal Kharal

101. Sahibzada Saeed-ul-Hasan Gillani.

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102. Peer Naseer ud Din Naseer Sahab Golarrvi Marhoom who always attended every program organized by Minhaj ul Quran and was always in contact with Doctor. Let me show his own writing about Doctor and his son. On his wedding, he brought with him a Sehra written by himself. Just check out it’s last verse and then Toqeer bhai, judge your status that where you stand, here or there?
“Janaab e Taahir Wasool kijiye k ek Aal e Zehra ki baargah se
Hussain Mohi ud Din ki shadi pe keh k laya Naseer Sehra”
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1239603940877&aid=1$pid=1239603940877
عطائے سرکارِ دو جہاں ہے تو فضلِ ربِ قدیر سہرا
عنایتِ خاص پنج تن کی، نوازشِ دستگیر سہرا
وہ آمدِ نو عروسِ بطحیٰ وہ عرش پر تہنیت کے نغمے
تمام دولہوں کا شاہ دولہا، تمام سہروں کا پیر سہرا
جو قلبِ طاہر میں ذاتِ ختم الرسل کی ہے شمعِ عشق روشن
اُسی سے ہے ضو پذیر محفل، اسی سے ہے جلوہ گیر سہرا
دعا ہے، اے سب کی سننے والے! ہمیشہ بن کر رہے جہاں میں
مسرتوں کی نقیب شادی، محبتوں کا سفیر سہرا
نگاہِ بد سے خدا بچائے، نظر زمانے کی لگ نہ جائے
چمک رہا ہے جبینِ نوشہ پہ مثلِ بدرِ منیر سہرا
جو شاہِ اجمیر مہرباں ہیں تو مُلتفت گنج بخش داتا
نتیجۂ لطفِ اولیاء ہے، دعائے پیرانِ پیر سہرا
ہے آج بھی سر پہ سایہ گستر تصرفِ دستِ شاہِ جیلاں
تجھے مبارک کہ ہوگا ثابت ترے لئے دستگیر سہرا
ملی ہے جس دن سے اس کی لڑیوں کو قادری سلسلے کی نسبت
ہے غوثِ اعظم کے خاک بوسوں کی آنکھ میں بے نظیر سہرا
ہے گرچہ مرکز ہر اک نظر کا چمک دمک اور بانکپن میں
نہیں ہے نوشہ کے رُوئے روشن کا پھر بھی عشرِ عشیر سہرا
ہزار کوئی لکھے مگر اس کا کوئی نعم البدل نہیں ہے
جو اپنی جدِّ کریم کے اک مرید کا لکھے، پیر سہرا
وکیلِ فائق جو طاہرالقادری تو شاعر نصیر خوش گو
بہ بیت نعم الوکیل شادی، بفضلِ نعم النصیر سہرا

5/25/09

Eid e MIlaad

@naveed



have read just a few post of urs n will b reading the entire posts as time permits
CAN U CLEAR ONE DOUBT
ABOUT OFFERING NAMAZ BEHIND A WAHIBI, SHIA OR FOR THAT MATTER ANY DEVIANT SECT
SHAYKHUL ISLAM'S VIEWS HERE AS THIS IS THE MOST CONTRADICTORY PART

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

103. Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman (Chairman Moon sighting committee Pakistan) and according to Mr Syed Attari bhai, ‘Fakhr e Ahl e Sunnat’. What you want to say about him now Attari Bhai?
104. Imam Doctor Muhammad Saeed Tantaavi (Shaikh al-Azhar Institute)
105. Shaikh Ali Jumma (Mufti e Azam Egypt)
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1207384397593&aid=1$pid=1207384397593
106. Ash Shaikh Professor Doctor Ahmad Umer Hashim (Former Vice Chanslor Al Azhar Institute) ;
http://www.minhajbooks.com/books/index.php?mod=btext&cid=2&bid=35&btid=496&read=txt=en
(See these exalted personalities from Al Azhar University who recently awarded Syyedi Taaj ush Shariyah as well. But according to Mr Abu Dawood Sadik, they are deviants. See his ‘authentic’, ‘undeniable’ and ‘rivered with undeniable proofs’ “BOOK”, “Khatre ki Ghanti” for that. Where he counts Minhaj ul Quran and Al Azhar Universities as the places of deviants.)
[redIf we act upon those Fatawa which Ulema Karaam issued against Doctor, then all our Naat reciters become deviants as they are friends with a super deviant, Tasleem Sabri. Check him out:
http://www.islamtune.com/play-video-764.html

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3GlvIAqyQ&feature=related

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Now at the end, let me give some authentic certificates issued to this Doctor for his Sunniyat, by some really high ranked Sunni Mashaikh o Ulema.


Sheikh-ul-Islam Khawaja Qamr-ud-Din Sayalvi RehmatullaahAlayh:

In 1966, when Dr. Sahib was only 15 years old, Khawaja Sahib annmounced:

"I want to make you a witness that we are proud of this child. Inshallah the day would come when this boy would be the greatest asset for Muslim World and Ahl-us-Sunnah. I won't be alive then, but most of you would see it shining on the skies of knowledge. Because of his knowledge, thoughts and struggle, the Aqaid of Ahl-us-Sunnah would get a support and the status of knowledge would increase. The Maslak of Ahl-e-Sunat is attached with this boy.".


In 1981, Ghazali e Zaman Ahmad Saeed Shah Kazmi declared: .


"This young man has been gifted with a great potential and I have grat hopes attached with him. All of you become a witness and listen to my words carefully. Allah has placed such a Noor of Fuzat-e-Muhammadi SallallaahoAlayhWasallima in his breast which would keep on increasing with the passage of time and would benefit a whole world … May Allah enlighten the whole Islamic World and the world of Ahl-e-Sunnat with his Ilmi, Fikri and Ruhani Noor. Whatever I have said would happen Insha Allah."

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Though he had a difference on the topic of Diyat, but still he used to love Dr. Sahib till his death.
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216669234877&aid=1$pid=1216669234877
http://www.orkut.com/Main#AlbumZoom.aspx?uid=17443487340646732167&pid=1216086818727&aid=1$pid=1216086818727


















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Naveed Ahmad

Zia-ul-Umat Justice Pir Muhammad Karam Shah Al-Azhari RehmatullaahAlayh: (Father of Ameen ul Hasanaat Shah Sahib)

He remained a great admirer of Dr. Sahib through out his life. In 1987 he said:

"In this era of afflictions, when I think about this man (i.e. Dr. Qadri), my heart fills with the feelings of thankfulness of Allah. It is His blessing that He has supported us through this Mard-e-Mujahid. … May Allah give him a long life!"

Hey Toqeer Bhai, what’s up?

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

Sayyadina Tahir Ala-ud-Deen Al-Gilani RehmatullaahAlayh. In case some readers don't know about him, here is his brief introduction:

He is from the family of Hazoor Ghos-al-Azam RadiAllaahoAnho and under his order he came to Pakistan in 1950's. When he visited Braili Shareef, millions (including scholars) lifted his car on their shoulders. Throughout his stay in Braili, Mufti-e-Azam Hazrat Molana Mustafa Raza Khan (the son of Aala Hazrat AlayheRehma) remained bare footed out of his respect.

This personality, for whom the son of Aala Hazrat RehmatullaahAlayh was so resfectful, declared:
Be it known to everyone, whosoever is causing loss to this Idara (i.e. Idara Minhaj-ul-Quran of Dr. Tahir-ul-Qadri), he should not think that he is in the chain of Qadriya, nor should he think that he is doing any service to Islam. Rather he is causing great loss to the religion of Islam. So all scholars, mashaikh, Sunni Hanafi brothers and especially the Muridin of Sayidina Ghos-al-Azam RadiAllaahoAnho should whole heartedly stick to Idara Minhaj-ul-Quran.

We all are Alhamdulillaah Proud Qadris, at least a Qadri should think for a 1000 times before opposing Dr. Sahib, in the light of the above saying.

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Naveed Ahmad

And when people say that he didn't know about the differences of opinion Doctor has with the other scholars, then they show the extreme of their stupidity because a Mureed never does anything without the permission from his Murshid and even after his visaal, Doctor takes permission before everything from Syyedina Tahir Alauddin Sahab RehmatullaahAlayh [:).

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

{Mustafa ki hai kali, Tahir ul Qadri.. Tu Salaamat Rahay, Ta Qayaamat rahay…}
Because Mustafa SallallaahoAlayheWasallima himself sends Salaam to him and his organization, see the speech of the Kep-keeper of the Holy Shrine once again.

In the end, please see this video and see what his dream and wish is. Just imagine this deviant is trying to turn our hearts to the Gumbad e Khazra. What a crime he is doing, isn’t it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQWrQbOL45o

5/25/09

"Muhammedun

@Naveed Bhai

Naveen Bhai awesome work

I don't have words to thank you and appreciate you for such a great work that you did.

You have defended Shaykh-Ul-Islam , you will get the reward for it from himself

Jazak Allahu Khairan Kaseera!

5/25/09

Rizwan

@Naveed bhai


MashaAllah bhai its not just gr88 work brother but we have longed to see the facts

refuting the baseless allegations made against Dr. Sahab.



it is not the case of defending Dr Sahab [hope Muhammadun does not mind] but to

present the truthful facts n figures thereby defending not just dr sahab but the ENTIRE

AHLE SUNNAH for that matter.



HATS OFF TO U BROTHER

5/25/09

Naveed Ahmad

I just want him in my dream and loot me away with all my bad deeds and turn it up into good ones. Ahh! Waiting for the day.. JazaakAllaah for the appriciation Bhai!

5/25/09

Obaid Khan

it is not the case of defending Dr Sahab [hope Muhammadun does not mind] but to

present the truthful facts n figures thereby defending not just dr sahab but the ENTIRE

AHLE SUNNAH for that matter.



Exactly summed up by rizwan bhai.Jazak Allah Khair Rizwan bhai for such beautiful views.

5/25/09

Obaid Khan

@all

Members should note that Rizwan bhai is a die hard admirer of Imam Ahle Sunnat Ala Hazrat RA.He is a barelli and at the same time he loves Dr Sahab as well.


Similarly,those who love dr sahab not just love and respect Ala Hazrat RA because he is a Mujaddid,but also because Ala Hazrat RA is the grand teacher of Sheikh ul Islam.

5/25/09

Obaid Khan

And Jazak Allah Khairun Naveed for such a beautiful and in-depth research.U did a marvellous job and u will definitely be rewarded by Allah SBT for presenting the truth in front of all.



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