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5/24/09 Test for Minhajians:
5/24/09 (1) Do you accept the Professor's contention that there are no fundamental differences between the Sunnis and the other 72 Jahannami sects?
5/24/09 I would like you to read the above statements again for the clearance of this point as well. And would like to share a verse here in reply to this statement:
5/24/09 Firstly, he has himself described what he means by the phrase "basic fundamental beliefs". This translation of that particular passage missed out those mentioned beliefs. He enlists these beliefs as:
5/24/09 Reference : Firqah Parasti Ka Khaatimah Qu Kar Mumkin Heh, page 65.
5/24/09 Doctor NEVER said what Magazine ‘Deed Shoneed’ has printed. Doctor is against sectarianism as it has been condemned many times in Qur’an. But belonging to one school of thought is not considered as sectarianism. So he has declared himself as a Sunni quite number of times.
5/24/09 Out of these 73 sects, Ahlesunnat Wa jama'at is one of the sects.
5/24/09 If we see in the past, did Sufia Karaam preach like this in Subcontinent? Or helped the generations through politeness and kindness of their inner soul? And we witnessed the results that generations reverted into Islam and the deviants came on the right path.
5/24/09 2. Do you share the Professor's belief that Aala Hazrat's Fatawa of Kufr in Husaamul Haramain against Ashraf AIi Thanwi, Rashid Ahmed Gangohi, Khaleel Ahmed Ambhetwi and Muhammad Qaasim Nonotwi, although correct then, but it is NOT APPLICABLE TODAY? (Null and void).
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5/24/09 Keeping all the above things in mind, if we look at the Fatawa, no where in the Fatawa is mentioned that whosoever will disagree with my stance and Fatwa will be a Murtad, Kharij az Deen, Kaafir or a Non-Sunni. If he has written such statement, please show me and I’ll change my mind the very next second. Doctor considers him and all the others who gave the Fatawa against them as his Crowns. 5/24/09 But when a senior scholar gives a statement or a Fatwa in the favor or against someone or any issue, the juniors have every right to show the difference of opinion, if there is any, on the basis of research and facts. But they can never ever say that the senior scholar, Imam, Mujaddid was wrong and his Fatwa is Baatil or not acceptable. Same way, Doctor’s statement about the Fatwa is “Ala Hazrat ne jo Fatwa dia, jo aap ne tehqeeqat keen, mein unn ko Haqq samajhta hoon aur unn ko hargiz ghalat nai kehta aur mabni bar haq kehta hoon aur kabhi zindagi mein unn ko ghalat kehnay ka tasawwur bhi nahi kia”. {Answering to a similar kind of question in 1989 at a Masjid}
5/24/09 A point to be noted is that Allah and His Rasool SallallaahoAlayheWasallima’s teachings and orders, and all the Akabir in the Ummah, their orders and teachings have difference in status. No one can deny this thing. E.g. If you disagree with the teachings of Allaah and His Rasool SallallahoAlayheWasallima’s teachings, you become a Kaafir. But after the Sahaba, right from Imaam e Azam till today, no scholar including Ala Hazrat, has ever said that no one has the right to have difference of opinion with my Fatwa or whosoever disagrees, becomes a Kafir or Murtad. This is the practice right from the time of Imam e Azam RadiAllaahoAnho.
5/24/09 Imam Shafa`i once said,”I am right with the possibility that I may be wrong, and the ones who are against me are wrong with the possibility that they may be right”. Just look at the wisdom of our Akaabir and Imams..
5/24/09 Now let’s analyze the merits of Adaab. Imam Abu Hanifa RadiAllaahoAnho had the Fatwa of not doing Rafa Yadayn, where as his later grand grand student Imam Shafa`i gave the Fatwa of doing Rafa Yadayn in Namaz. But whenever Imam Shafa`i used to go to Imam e Azam’s Shrine, he didn’t do Rafa Yadayn in the Namaz, out of respect, acted against his own research for the respect of his grand grand teacher. Going against his own Fatwa. This was the time when people had open minds and had places in hearts to accept each other.
5/24/09 Let me reveal the relationship between Doctor and AlaHazrat AlayheRehma now.
5/24/09 He asked him then when will you go back to Bareli? He replied that I’ll listen to your lecture and then will move back. Let me clear the point that whenever a senior sitts in a Majlis of a junior, he sitts there to give away the faiz, not to earn something. And keep an eye, that may he not get detracted. While explaining all this relation, he was sitting in a Masjid and gave his Shahaadah, and said that may Allaah and His Rasool’s laanat on the liar, and the Angels’, and all the Momins’ till the day of judgment. No one can snatch AlaHazrat’s nisbat from anyone and neither is anyone the ‘Thekaydaar’ of AlaHazrat AlayheRehmat. His faiz is there in the Tehreek Minhaj ul Qur’an along with many other Holy Fayyuz.. 5/24/09 At residence of Saiyyid Wajaa'at Rasool Qaadri and in the presence of the following individuals; Hazrat Allamah Kaukab Noorani Okarvi, Saiyyid Riaasat Ali Qaadri, Hajee Shafee Muhammad Qaadri, Professor Majeedul Qaadri and his former supporter and sympathiser Hazrat Maulana Ghulaam Haider Saiyidi, he uttered these words. If this news is wrong then wht dont he declare it in public.
5/24/09 Why does he pray behind kafir and murtad wahabis/deobandies and also want others to do the same.
5/24/09 "Should I spend time in defending my position in the eyes of some ulama, or should I spend this time to defend the image of Islam in the eyes of the whole world? I want to do the work which would save our generations from not only the attack of bad aqida but also from the attacks that non-Muslims are making on Islamic thought. If I could do enough work to strengthen Islam, it matters least whether I could defend my position or not. I have a limited time and I don't want to spend it in defending my personal image. With the blessing of Allah I hold the beliefs of Ahl-us-Sunnah, and would remain a Sunni till my death Inshallah."
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5/24/09 Who doesn't know that Aqaid of Ahl-e-Sunnat are seriously under threat because of a Saudi sponored compaign? Under the influence of this compaign, a large number of Sunni youth is converting to Wahabism. The situation is getting worse because the local Sunni ulema are usually not well-equipped with the references of Quran and Hadith to defend their aqida. Secondly, there are very few books who answer the questions raised against our aqida.
5/24/09 Once a friend of mine gave his CD on the topic of Milad-un-Nabi SallallaahoAlayheWasallima to a Deobandi and when he returned the CD, he was totally convinced about permissibility of this blessed event. The biggest proof can be seen on every Milaad when we see the Principal of the biggest Deobandi Institute of Pakistan, Jamia Ashrafia, on the stage with numerous other Sunni Scholars and bazurghaan e Din and other people from other schools of thought.
5/24/09 Difference of Opinion on the issue of Takfir by AlaHazrat.
5/24/09 Even a bigger issue.
5/24/09 If he didnt uttered these words then why did he call kafir Thanvi as Molana Ashraf Ali thanvi in one of his lectures which i heard myself on Qtv
5/24/09 But when these exalted Ulema gave their Fatawa against him, even the Fatawa of Kuft, they used the term ‘Shaikh ul Islam’ with his name 5/24/09 next thought.......watch image below where he excluded Ala'Hazrat(Heart of Ahlesunnat Wa jama'at) from the list of mujadid's he mentioned in his book "Firqa Parasti ka Khatima kiyun ker mumkin hai"page 71,72
5/24/09 Pir Jamat Ali Shah Muhadas Ali Puri declared that whoever would not unite under the leadership of Quaid-e-Azam (i.e. a Shia) his funeral would not be offered by our muridin. What would you call him? A Sullah e Kulli or not a supporter of the slogan of Ahl e Sunnah and declare him out of Ahl ul Sunnah?
5/24/09 What is your fatwa about those who worked under the leadership of Mufti Mahmood (a Deobandi) in 1977’s Tahreek-e-Nizam-e-Mustafa
5/24/09 Coming to Tauqeer Bhai and the other questioners again. What is your fatwa about those who remained silent about the takfir issue against the same Ulema e Deoband whom AlaHazrat declared as Kuffar, though the quotations from the relevant books were presented to them
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Now you remember your comment on me when the issue of Ahl ul Bait was under discussion? You used Pir Karam Shah RehmatullahAlayh’s name. Now let’s see what you call him. A Sullah e Kulli or a Non-Sunni as he also showed silence over the issue of Takffir on those Deobandi Ulema even after their scriptures were also presented before him, but on the basis of some researches and due to some Ihtiyaat, remained silent.
5/24/09 What would you like to say about your slogan thingy now?
5/24/09 According to Doctor both of the following approaches are correct:
5/24/09 And after that, the Hadeeth you quoted is rightly being followed by Doctor. E.g. Look at the complete series of the videos in which he is exposing the biggest Faajirs of present times. And for a bit more clarifications, let me tell you one more thing. This Doctor has done his Bismillaah in Uloom e Diniyah and Uloom e Darsiyah on from Maulana Zia ud Din Madni Sahib.
5/24/09 Also see:
5/24/09 Do you believe like the Professor that Allah's beloved Prophet - Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam - was not bestowed with any authority whatsoever? (lqtiyaar).
5/24/09 refutations of this aqeedah never provided although new edition have been altered to exclude these words.
5/24/09 Once again, while giving the reference to the book he skipped out the right page number. He changed it from 55 to 86? I don’t know why is he doing so? To misguide the readers to the wrong page numbers so that they can themselves say that they have changed the wordings? Or something else is going on in his mind. Allaah and His Habib SallallaahoAlayheWasallima know better.
5/25/09 The book is emphasizing that the Prophet SallallaahoAlayheWasallima was awarded with all kinds of authorities, and still he didn't force others to accept Islam, and people are comparing it with Taqwiyatul Imaan's statement "Whosever’s name is Muhammad or Ahmed has no authority over anything". Pathetic!
5/25/09 Expecting this sort of Gustakhi of Beloved SallallaahoAlayhewasllima is totally out of context and impossible for me. Because, it’s because of his efforts that it’s in the constitution of Pakistan that the punishment of Gustakh e Rasool is a death penalty. A huge group of Ulema e Karaam were present there to defend this statement of Ahl ul Sunnah and an equal amount of other scholars from other Schools of Thought were also there. There he took the stand and stood like a lion against the other schools and won the debate. A grand Mufti of Ahl ul Sunnah Mufti Syed Shuja’at Ali Qadri said at that moment to that huge group that “Shukr hai Allah ka k Tahir ul Qadri maujood tha, agar wo na hota tou hum Ahl e Sunnat mein koi aisa aadmi na tha jo aisay dalaael deta jo inho ne diye”. Associating this kind of wrong statement with that man is really a big example of irresponsibility.
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5/25/09 Another example of so called ‘Gustakhi’:
5/25/09 Do you accept the ruling of the Professor on the Mas' ala of "Diyat" and reject the consensus of the lmaams.of Hanafi, Shafaee, Maliki and Hambali Mazaahib etc?
5/25/09 Does the issue of diyat really enjoy the status of Ijma? Doctor has explained that this issue has received many differing opinions from earlier scholars and hence it is not easy to say that there is an Ijma on this issue. He explained all this in a comprehensive speech on this topic in the presence of great scholars like Niazi Sahib and Kazmi Sahib etc. I have not listened to that speech but those who attended this have informed me about this.
5/25/09 Now let’s look at the image you gave.
5/25/09 Differences among the scholars are a normal thing in the 1400 years history of Islam. From Imam Abu Yousaf and Imam Muhammad (the 2 students of Imam Abu Hanifa) to AlaHazrat AlayheRehma, every scholar has differed with the earlier scholars. Aala Hazrat differed on thousands (and not hundreds) of places with the earlier Hannafi scholars. If Doctor has differed on one (or on a few) issues with some, no sky should fall apart. What say?
5/25/09 n Mr. Naveed!! one thing I want to say u that once I used to follow dr tahir ul Qadri n listen his lectures n read his books...n I also used to feel as u r doing right now.... but when I started using orkut...one of my Islamic Brothers guided me...when I came to know some reality about him which I had not known before, I immediately left him...now AlhamduLILLAH I m okay n may ALLAH keep me on Rightous path n give me death in the Service of Islam....
5/25/09 Now we will move to the “Books” presented in the thread and on many other places. Irfan Qadri also sent me the links of these books considering them as very ‘Authentic’ and ‘Undeniable’
5/25/09 The campaign against Doctor starts from the Pg. 05 and the allegations written their can be viewed that how authentic they are. Read the allegation number 2 and 3 out of the 6 allegations. Can you see references there in the Book for them? And if the references are the same as you brothers gave me here, then I should say nothing on it. Book carries a weak health then. Saying this on the basis of the Fatawa of AlaHazrat AlayheRehma. Have you ever read his fatawa? Did you see those letters, those proofs, the allegations, references and then the exact Fatwa? Please, have a look at them and you’ll say same sort of thing regarding it. Read the first paragraph of Pg. 5, where it’s stated that it’s not allowed to do Ijtihaad. That’s the gist of the whole paragraph. I’ll not comment, you can yourself judge it better.
5/25/09 ”Khatre ki Ghanti!”
5/25/09 (3) Do you believe like the Professor that Salaah behind the Wahabi, Deobandi, Tablighi and Shia lmaams is permissible?
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5/25/09 Then a video is given as a ‘Proof’. When I saw that clip, it was really tempered with (by cutting / editing some parts of it). In it, Doctor promised that he would sit there for the whole night to clarify all of their doubts. Still that clip contained only a few minutes of Doctor’s response.
5/25/09 4. In the case of that clip, Doctor clearly stated that all Deobandis are not Gustakh, and no one informed him about any objectionable belief of that particular Deobandi scholar i.e. Professor Idrees. This was also confirmed (in that clip) by some Sunni scholar that he didn’t inform Doctor about his detailed beliefs.
5/25/09 3. Dr Sahib’s services for Ahl-us-Sunnah are unmatchable, and history would prove it (Inshallah). His Dora-e-Bukhari alone has converted 200 Salafi scholars of Europe in to Sunni school while hundreds of television viewers have admitted their conversion through letters. Dr Sahib never asks them to convert; it is his way of presenting things with impresses them. Now, what is the contribution of others towards the Sunni cause? Fatwas are not the only way to serve this cause; it requires a lot more which Dr Sahib is doing with all the success (Al-Hamdu Lillah). 5/25/09 In a nutshell:
5/25/09 (4) Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE AND ACCEPT that the Professor's "dreams" attributed to our beloved Prophet are TRUE?
5/25/09 The Dream Summarized
5/25/09 Propaganda against that Dream:
5/25/09 Answers to Objections:
5/25/09 It’s in Qur’an in Surah Yunus Ayat: 64 :-
5/25/09 Imam Abu al-Hassan Ash`ari who is an Imam in the world of Ahl ul Sunnah, writes in his beliefs a man becomes ‘Kafir’ by denying dreams. Now test yourself on the basis of above quotations. I here by quote some Ahadith Shareef related to the ‘Bisharaat’.
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5/25/09 For point no. 5, can you find any reference there? Please inform me if there’s some. 5/25/09 8) Where you aware - prior to the arrival of the Professor to South Africa - that he performs his Salaah behind the Imaams of Wahaabis, Deobandis and Shias, etc?
5/25/09 9) Do you agree with the statement of the Professor when he stated that his mission is not to work for the loftiness of Sunni-Hanafiyat or for the school of the Ahle Sunnat?
5/25/09 See from whom he is taking oath and what oath is he taking here. Oath of Rasool Allaah’s SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ghulami and naukri. Taking oath from the youth, us.
5/25/09 10) Do you endorse the statement of the Professor when he said that Khomeini lived like Hazrat Ali and died like Imam Husain and that love for Khomeini demands that every child should become a Khomeini?
5/25/09 So this Tashbih (like many examples in Ilm-ul-Blagha) should be taken as the acknowledgement of only one characteristic of Khomeini’s personality.
5/25/09 (12) Do you endorse the belief of your Professor that if you have to accumulate all the knowledge of the Sahaaba-e-Kiraam, it will not even be equivalent to the knowledge of Hazrat Ali?
5/25/09 Hazoor Ali Maula RadiAllaahoAnho se riwaayat hai k Hazoor Nabi e Kareem SallallaahoAlayheWasallima ne farmaya; Mein hikmat ka ghar hooon aur Ali uss ka darwaza hai.
5/25/09 Keeping these Ahadeeth Shareef in mind, if one utters such words that he has no match in knowledge among Sahaba Karaam, then I find no gustaakhi in it. Don’t have a clue that from where you got it in your mind. And by the way look at the statement quoted in inverted comma’s in Urdu, and look at it’s translation. Once again you will notice some irresponsibility there. And once again I’d request that don’t bring comparisons in minds like Wahabis do. This was the thing started from Khawaarij. We all are Qadris, and Alhamdulillaah we are proud ones. If something great is known to us about our Akaabir then we should utter it. And the one uttering them shouldn’t be labeled as ‘Shia’. 5/25/09 At the end of this page, I saw some statements before. They are not present now. But I have them from another website. Won’t reveal the name of the website or the organization because it’s going to be something about criticizing on someone. Let me paste the lines now.
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5/25/09 Then you gave a list. Let’s discuss a few names out of it and then I’ll give my list which will contain some personalities whom ‘Sunniyat’ you can’t even doubt about.
5/25/09 Then there are a few more names, out of whom I’d like to mention a few with a few things related to them as well.
5/25/09 Allama Muhammad Yaqoob Khan Golarrvi.
5/25/09 Mufti Ashraf Asif Jalali.
5/25/09 Mufti Abu Dawood Muhammad Sadiq Qadri
5/25/09 Now I will discuss Fatwa issued by some of the Ulema from the above list against Doctor. 5/25/09 Complete Text of the Fatwa
5/25/09 No. The fact is that this Mufti Sahib CANNOT provide EVEN A SINGLE REFERENCE where Dr Sahib (explicitly) said that (حضرت ابوبکروعمر رضی اللہ تعالی عنہما کو گالی دینا اور ام المومنین حضرت عائشہ صدیقہ طیبہ طاہرہ رضی اللہ تعالی عنہا پر تہمت لگانا فروعی بات ہے).
5/25/09 Text of the Fatwa
5/25/09 Text of the Fatwa
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5/25/09 Now my list of Ulema o Mashaikh who support this Sunni Alim e Deen.
5/25/09 12. Hazrat Peer Sahibzada Muhammad Shehzad Mujaddidi
5/25/09 22. Hazrat Peer Mian Mazhar Ali
5/25/09 36. Makhdoom Peer Syyed Sarwar Hussain (Sajjada Nasheen Dargah e Aaliya Ajmer Shareef India)
5/25/09 52. Mufti Gul Rahman Qadri (Mufti Muhammad Gul Rahman Qadri one of the leading muftis in the UK, who headed the organising committee for the course, shed light on the importance of the course. He said whether people understood the reasons for organising this course or not, for me, the fact that someone like Shaykh-ul-Islam will be teaching Sahih-ul-Bukhari, is enough of a reason to attend. He said whenever Shaykh-ul-Islam speaks we are flooded by diamonds, rubies and gems of knowledge that we never new existed.
5/25/09 53. Mufti Abdul Rasool Mansoor Al azhari (http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=3190)
5/25/09 60. Shaykh Habib Umar bin Salim bin Hafeez a great Shaykh and spiritual leader from the land of Hadramaut (Yemen),descends from a family whose lineage goes back to the Prophet, salla Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam.
5/25/09 62. Shiekh Abdullah Bin Bayah Vice President of the International Union of Muslim Scholars and Professor in king Abd-ul-Aziz University Jeddah. Belongs to Maliki School of Thought
5/25/09 As Shaikh Muhammad Al Yaqubi al-Hassani (Sirya) http://www.minhaj.org/en.php?tid=65 (As Shaykh Muhammad descends from a family whose lineage goes back to the Prophet, salla Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam, through his grandson Sayyiduna al-Hasan, radiya Allahu 'anhu. His ancestors also include some of the greatest scholars of Syria. His father, Shaykh Ibrahim al-Ya'qoubi (d. 1985/1406 H.), was one of the greatest scholars Syria saw in the past 50 years.
5/25/09 67. Allama Mufti Muneer-uz-Zaman Chisti, Jamia Chistia, Roachdale
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5/25/09 Allama Qari Muhammad Hanif, Gulzar-e-Madinah Mosque, Leicester
5/25/09 94. Shaykh as-Sayyid Yusuf Hashim Ar-Rifai (A leading Shafi scholar, author and former minister, Kuwait)
5/25/09 95. Hazoor Syyedi Wa Murshidi Chan Jee Sarkaar Peer Tanveer Haider Shah Chishti Qadri Haideri Damat BarkaatahumAaaliya. Many friends out here asked me about his view about the Doctor. So here I am very proudly writing down his name with bold letters.
5/25/09 97. Jamia Naeemiya (the biggest Sunni Madarsa in Lahore) support Dr Sahib and they officially presented their services to manage Minhaj-ul-Quran's programs. Their principal, the well-known Mufti Sarfraz Naeemi Sahib, he appreciates Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri's efforts and visited Minhaj-ul-Quran's headquarters a few months ago. And if often invited on every big Ijtimah and Islamic gathering.
5/25/09 102. Peer Naseer ud Din Naseer Sahab Golarrvi Marhoom who always attended every program organized by Minhaj ul Quran and was always in contact with Doctor. Let me show his own writing about Doctor and his son. On his wedding, he brought with him a Sehra written by himself. Just check out it’s last verse and then Toqeer bhai, judge your status that where you stand, here or there?
5/25/09 @naveed
5/25/09 103. Mufti Muneeb ur Rehman (Chairman Moon sighting committee Pakistan) and according to Mr Syed Attari bhai, ‘Fakhr e Ahl e Sunnat’. What you want to say about him now Attari Bhai?
5/25/09 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU3GlvIAqyQ&feature=related 5/25/09 Now at the end, let me give some authentic certificates issued to this Doctor for his Sunniyat, by some really high ranked Sunni Mashaikh o Ulema.
5/25/09 Though he had a difference on the topic of Diyat, but still he used to love Dr. Sahib till his death.
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5/25/09 Zia-ul-Umat Justice Pir Muhammad Karam Shah Al-Azhari RehmatullaahAlayh: (Father of Ameen ul Hasanaat Shah Sahib)
5/25/09 Sayyadina Tahir Ala-ud-Deen Al-Gilani RehmatullaahAlayh. In case some readers don't know about him, here is his brief introduction:
5/25/09 And when people say that he didn't know about the differences of opinion Doctor has with the other scholars, then they show the extreme of their stupidity because a Mureed never does anything without the permission from his Murshid and even after his visaal, Doctor takes permission before everything from Syyedina Tahir Alauddin Sahab RehmatullaahAlayh [:). 5/25/09 {Mustafa ki hai kali, Tahir ul Qadri.. Tu Salaamat Rahay, Ta Qayaamat rahay…}
5/25/09 @Naveed Bhai Naveen Bhai awesome work
5/25/09 @Naveed bhai
5/25/09 I just want him in my dream and loot me away with all my bad deeds and turn it up into good ones. Ahh! Waiting for the day.. 5/25/09 it is not the case of defending Dr Sahab [hope Muhammadun does not mind] but to
5/25/09 @all Members should note that Rizwan bhai is a die hard admirer of Imam Ahle Sunnat Ala Hazrat RA.He is a barelli and at the same time he loves Dr Sahab as well.
5/25/09 And Jazak Allah Khairun Naveed for such a beautiful and in-depth research.U did a marvellous job and u will definitely be rewarded by Allah SBT for presenting the truth in front of all.
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